From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 21:14:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A363D106566C for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD2C8FC22 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24452 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2010 20:46:23 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 28 Jul 2010 20:46:23 -0000 Message-ID: <4C509728.2040008@telenix.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:46:32 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale Scott References: <4C4F030D.4090208@googlemail.com> <844736C6-506D-417F-B180-389D70B12789@balholm.com> <0924931751598C840714ABD4@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20100727220952.GO39480@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <62ff4ba92a711128d74c6319f09ade0c.squirrel@www.gull.us> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:14:24 -0000 Dale Scott wrote: > Personally, I enjoy our mascot Beastie, as well as the Beastie-influenced official logo. I also smile when I see Casper, Wendy andHotStuff. > However, I also accept there are individuals who understand these symbols differently than me, and that I may be alienating them to my > detriment. It seems consumer products need to be mindful of cultural > differences, is FreeBSD different? A larger community and increased OS market share wouldn't be all that bad, would it? > > I hope that those of you who believe in FreeBSD but with a personal conflict with the mascot or logo, > band together and propose a complementary alternate symbol. I don't > mean flooding the mail list (it's obvious we can do that on our own), > I'm talking about difficult time-consuming organization, lobbying, and > support gathering. For me, I hope Beastie endures forever - he our first and legacy mascot - but I also wouldn't object to one or two more officially sanctioned mascots and logos either. > > Dale Scott God, I rewrote this 4 times, because I need to be careful and correct here. First, there is no honest reason why people of differing opinions can't get along. If others have problems with me having my own beliefs, I won't force them to live my way, but they must respect my own choices too. The major point here, though, is a historical one: appeasement does not work, and even the attempt leads to problems. The point is, no sane person really believes that Beastie equates to devil worship, and I don't like the idea of letting crazies dictate my life.