From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 28 13:31:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5861065670 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:31:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weaseal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D418FC27 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:31:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj8 with SMTP id 8so829201pwj.3 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:31:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UbB2nWJo/F4rvsZa5AcaiBMONFz8npEFt2dyBI2H9CI=; b=PNecjCMVLh5za01YOiaOrQTMlBK5SoP2VPWS1mDKU9YhZHx4PoRIAMJRKxiQOSOLej 0gdS3T26zpxymisSw0PGs5MuIQGV74GWlSchC18jUnOb7Yf0oMMQrk+d/ystJ8ZOkiK8 fWyNsicZe4AJ4av4NjTINXAMBXIOyzALPVe9M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=s03poktSl+1511iVw1iqpGYcoNn+hOtSxkzm5rRH5h2Zk8bzKa8HIgcQFbnoBxNIWJ NxABSaDJ7Q1aww9OB3pegOYrzKP1KKPXsQ1ZD2ZJGvSuh+T5YDAA3hRMt978cEhtL8l7 4EY62PGg3LeW9Ze4eohF7ND3H+w//ntWymMjw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.202.12 with SMTP id z12mr2173536rvf.112.1256735476167; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:11:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AE7D9F3.6030804@bah.homeip.net> References: <4AE5F897.3000103@rawbw.com> <20091027142502.Q91143@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <20091027191626.T92033@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <57d710000910271741p7429d4feh150ecbe6cddd3d2e@mail.gmail.com> <20091027202430.X92294@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <87d448wamy.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20091027234600.A93064@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <4AE7D9F3.6030804@bah.homeip.net> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:11:16 -0400 Message-ID: <8dfae1c10910280611p80b4387na1af211503c952bc@mail.gmail.com> From: Walter Venable To: Bernt Hansson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:45:15 +0000 Cc: Lars Eighner , pete wright , Giorgos Keramidas , Jonathan McKeown , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, utisoft@gmail.com Subject: Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:31:28 -0000 On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote= : > > > Lars Eighner said the following on 2009-10-28 05:46: >> >> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:24:38 -0500 (CDT), Lars Eighner >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Evidently by making it necessary to learn yet another scripting >>>> language to configure it. =A0Other than personal profit I cannot see w= hy >>>> people are clinging like grim death to something this fubar. =A0Really= , >>>> let's go past this one more time: >>>> >>>> "Sure, sendmail.cf is hard to work with so the solution is you learn >>>> m4!" >>>> >>>> Did you look at the link he offered? =A0How helpful is that? >>>> >>>> Beside which, m4 is a PORT. =A0So if sendmail is not configurable >>>> without a port, why isn't it a port? >>> >>> Can we go back to our regular hacking, please? =A0m4 is not a port: >>> >>> =A0$ which m4 >>> =A0/usr/bin/m4 >> >> I wonder how that happened, > > Too much alcohol? Really? See /usr/src/usr.bin/m4/Makefile