From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Nov 30 19:23:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA27384 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 19:23:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from kai.communique.net (Kai.communique.net [204.27.67.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA27376 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 19:23:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nectar@NECTAR.COM) Received: (from smap@localhost) by kai.communique.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id VAA25366; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 21:28:36 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: kai.communique.net: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.communique.net(127.0.0.1) by kai.communique.net via smap (V2.0) id xma025362; Sun, 30 Nov 97 21:28:20 -0600 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 21:28:20 -0600 (CST) From: Jacques Vidrine X-Sender: nectar@kai.communique.net To: Mike Smith cc: Joerg Wunsch , "hackers@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Programming: What if anything is guaranteed to be always in FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199712010247.NAA00456@word.smith.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Duh, I may have been lost, I wasn't thinking about what is on the CD :-) I was thinking about what is installed in the "User" package, et. al. perl4 is, for example. Hmm, maybe I wasn't lost, I think the original question was regarding what is generally available in any installation? pkg_* works well for me, and AFAIK there isn't anything like the ports collection for Red Hat. I wouldn't trade it for RPM. I'm sure lines of FORTRAN code outnumber lines of Python code considerably. Though I believe that Python is giving FORTRAN and C a run for their money when it comes to numeric programming. But this conversation doesn't belong on this list. Later! Jacques Vidrine On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > I wish Python would be included as well ... but then I guess that everyone > > wishes that their fav language was included. > > It's right there on the CD, along with dozens of other pet languages. > > > Though Python'd probably be more useful than FORTRAN :-) > > Given the responses I've received to my occasionaly luser queries about > Fortran, I would be inclined to say that there is probably still more > Fortran code doing more Real Work on FreeBSD than Python code. > > > One of the few things I like about Red Hat Linux is that it has python > > preinstalled! > > This is merely because their moderately sucky(*) package management > system uses it. > > mike > > (*) This is in contrast to our extremely sucky package management > system. 8) > >