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On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

>> Ideally, I'd like to see device drivers stop setting or clearing 
>> stack-owned bits, such as IFF_UP, IFF_PROMISC, etc.  However, we 
>> probably have a ways to go before we're there.
>
> I belive if the driver doesn't to this, you have to explicity specify 
> "up" on the ifconfig command line.

Many perfectly functional drivers work just fine without directly frobbing 
the flag -- if_em, if_fxp, if_xl, etc.

Robert N M Watson