From owner-freebsd-bugs Fri Jan 11 3:39: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B587D37B405 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 03:38:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.seasidesoftware.co.za) by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16P03I-000D1c-00; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:40:52 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: gnb@itga.com.au, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kern/33637: Panic: vm_page_unwire: invalid wire count: 0 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 11 Jan 2002 00:33:01 PST." <000201c19a7a$94a7d840$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:40:52 +0200 Message-ID: <50071.1010749252@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 00:33:01 PST, "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > But these sorts of bug reports are worthless to the FreeBSD team if > the submitter is going to jump to conclusions that it's an OS bug and > not even _try_ pursuing the possibility that it's an application bug. This is the only part of this thread that I'd like to comment on. :-) I don't agree with your statement above. While the originator's problem might be most quickly resolved by first checking for an application bug, the report is not worthless to the FreeBSD project, because it demonstrates a somewhat reproducible kernel panic. If the panic is not the result of flakey hardware and someone with VM clue takes an interest and the originator is willing to provide feedback and test patches, then the PR is useful to us, regardless of whether there's a bug in Diablo that needs to be fixed. The worst that could happen is that the PR be suspended with "Too hard to fix" and left for some future whizz kid to tackle. I don't expect to change your mind, since you've been arguing your point quite strongly, but I would like for the mailing list archives to show that your opinion on the matter is not representative of the entire project's mindshare. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message