From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 7 18:06:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6328B660 for ; Tue, 7 May 2013 18:06:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yh0-x22a.google.com (mail-yh0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c01::22a]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2757A901 for ; Tue, 7 May 2013 18:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f42.google.com with SMTP id t59so210211yho.15 for ; Tue, 07 May 2013 11:06:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references :disposition-notification-to:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer; bh=JkSs/K+uMetGqzkb9o/IYHCm8FDKuzUxBt9Sg2/3N/I=; b=QDxMG9TwuGHYRLErFh296iA1HkX1xy0TLqkMx8ys4tFSYWCMRmOf1qmqdVT7iTcWQE 6C13w1ti1TYFVEewvF00rNCb1PeyRJaTxfeK7KsHdUYX+89Lx36F9xB1aZ70MmRlE+mI oXnRgFb790HxauDy4BQTIYGoRPBM9aULsk2JVCJpHFNit9InEZM/SpQCNbb3g7qpaHl1 +HuQfN8Vwt+Wquh1SlwNVcgxibSxe2Gfgq8z9/5Adb5nhuDCkjuavkq7kDHXZtWeR1yJ fBBlFw/bBgHEeypMdByIJWWv9ggwL/kyjdfOzEgXbihE/BXsy1WUzPaDHZ6jxaP/Mhlp VnOQ== X-Received: by 10.236.123.100 with SMTP id u64mr2978757yhh.4.1367950006584; Tue, 07 May 2013 11:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.6.46] ([189.123.220.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i21sm57191859yhl.15.2013.05.07.11.06.44 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 07 May 2013 11:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Status of ATI video acceleration support + freebsd port code From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <53471.1367887450@server1.tristatelogic.com> <5188C489.3040808@dumbbell.fr> <6f8f042d2c194e1d18668ce2fa36a9e7@ethernull.org> Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 15:06:50 -0300 Message-ID: <1367950010.13818.24.camel@lenovo.lenzicasa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 18:06:47 -0000 > Why from scratch? Let's do fork of ums code (and forexamle call him ums-ng) > and piecemeal upgrade him to functionality of kms. I am sure that there > will be supporters of my ideas. People must have choice ums vs kms like as > linux vs freebsd! >From my point of view, it is just a matter of $$$$, I (and some others) are funding a company to support FreeBSD, in some months (I hope) there will be $$$$ to pay for FreeBSD code and of course donate the code to FreeBSD.org... I do not have an idea, but, do you people can tell how much does it would costs to write UMS or KMS code for FreeBSD??? I think I have the money, I just must know how much is needed.. I really do not care if the code goes in the kernel or in user mode, As far as I can test, running Linux vs FreeBSD in the notebooks I tested the FreeBSD is far more reliable, faster, than Linux. The only problem with FreeBSD is the drivers for the radeon and intel video chips... We will need also code for the wifi, camera, and sleep/wakeup... The idea is to sell notebooks to a closed market, about 100.000 units... each notebooks can sell for US$400 (4gb of ram, 320Gb of disk) 14inch screen. no brand name... Operating system FreeBSD9 or 10, gnome 2.32. OPPINIONS please????