From owner-svn-ports-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 8 12:57:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FB4AF06; Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x236.google.com (mail-we0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27C29E8D; Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id p61so6394238wes.13 for ; Sat, 08 Mar 2014 04:57:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=1Zc/ttzAVdw0x+43O00RHkVbv7nZF0GGU5ZfqiCB4qc=; b=CA3z8b182+5jRma+EeNt6jU9jHWVm132Rt+IvsEQ0JzUyW3Jkk6v6MmZeC/z8rXAJj Li+NRGW7Imo7JBNDvvDeWgpfLWgOrFXEcQbHWLVcyyGAAu+rGtjk+yshh3HNSwDgyEeS xNKdC9wYwBgfkLsahIEDr2BL3FdtcbieQtsooFQQvTuFVsUdiCBid5GfD6zTxhCyGcQx V4CFMCvSWxXw/wGkZxRqX7vHY2xmbGKfKD5qarYrnDSmQ/CZghxz19GCKnD0d9g+JNks 2MAj3KI06K9l1BT3cOIU2LtkS4YgJ78YLTh4NgJIezrGFTHqwbfYxDi4rmFmoIere9Ez 42Kg== X-Received: by 10.180.187.16 with SMTP id fo16mr2457247wic.26.1394283430622; Sat, 08 Mar 2014 04:57:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ithaqua.etoilebsd.net (ithaqua.etoilebsd.net. [37.59.37.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 15sm26011366wjo.13.2014.03.08.04.57.09 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 08 Mar 2014 04:57:09 -0800 (PST) Sender: Baptiste Daroussin Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 13:57:07 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Gerald Pfeifer Subject: Re: Deprecation policies (was: svn commit: r347338 - in head/net-p2p: . microdc2 microdc2/files) Message-ID: <20140308125707.GD6900@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <201403070625.s276PGbO062948@svn.freebsd.org> <20140307090840.GB98331@FreeBSD.org> <7A2A804C-B978-4259-9945-27A764EC9AB7@gmail.com> <20140307092408.GA3390@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PHCdUe6m4AxPMzOu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, Alexey Dokuchaev , svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2014 12:57:13 -0000 --PHCdUe6m4AxPMzOu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 01:09:50PM +0100, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > On Fri, 7 Mar 2014, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > microdc2 is useful port; and given how easy it was to unbreak it, I don= 't > > understand how could it possibly slip into abyss in the first place. :( > > This is why I generally do not support deprecation due to compile failu= re. >=20 > Have you done any larger infrastructure work recently? >=20 > I have worked on several, and I can tell it is painful. It is painful=20 > because of all those semi-broken and kind-of-broken and partially mended= =20 > and dying and reanimated and undead ports in the tree. Ports that still= =20 > do not support staging. Ports that fail to build on most versions I test. >=20 >=20 > If anything, I think we need to consider becoming more aggressive: >=20 > A port that fails to build on either of the latest two major release=20 > branches for X months gets deprecated. >=20 > A port that does not support staging by my birthday gets deprecated. >=20 > Any such ports that have been deprecated for two months and not seen > any work to fix them get removed. >=20 > Gerald >=20 >=20 > PS: I am not asking for perfection and appreciate all the help I have > received from Thierry, Mat, Sunpoet, Ren=E9, John, David, Martin, Decke, > the B brothers and others with their ports and mine and infrastructure. +10000 !!!! regards, Bapt --PHCdUe6m4AxPMzOu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlMbE6MACgkQ8kTtMUmk6ExpjwCfe7EJKHAHA/UpekiRZnA9qRDz ceEAn11L1LPPTLGYFmaQhuPcRmtgckJ1 =sjC0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PHCdUe6m4AxPMzOu--