From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 10 04:32:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071E516A403 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 04:32:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B5E13C428 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 04:32:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so6055874uge for ; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:32:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rbEEYn+552w5dqPw9YyVbxI/uKe3//FEGg8HBq2j18Tyd+xjH9oX+XjYYzBGYahJg490JFzbplD2qTce2M6SWcRLEyPgxMJMkcyHfuzc1+xdWUk3+a3BYGpEDvmbdO0wn9JTVCxBXOdk4SJvkyT4VCPS7E/WmVBE5TE6wF9OOE8= Received: by 10.78.172.20 with SMTP id u20mr4592727hue.1168403552300; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:32:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.118.10 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 20:32:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 22:32:32 -0600 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Peter Giessel" In-Reply-To: <5D85F408-0110-1000-948B-AE501311BEDA-Webmail-10020@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45A2805E.7060000@ccstores.com> <20070109222558.GA75695@xor.obsecurity.org> <5D85F408-0110-1000-948B-AE501311BEDA-Webmail-10020@mac.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 04:32:34 -0000 On 1/9/07, Peter Giessel wrote: > On Tuesday, January 09, 2007, at 02:38PM, "Nikolas Britton" wrote: > >Why then? Are you guys ever going to do something about Xorg DRI/DRM > >for Radeon cards, Java, and Flash support? More importantly: > > Why is another project's problems FreeBSD's problem? > Xorg isn't even in the base system. > It's FreeBSD's problem because Xorg doesn't hard lock the system on other systems. It's FreeBSD's problem because other systems don't have these problems. It's FreeBSD's problem because DRM/DRI is a part of the kernel. > >2. Fix SATA RAID driver problems? > > If you buy a quality SATA Raid card, with quality support, this isn't an > issue. 3ware regularly updates the drivers for their cards and > regularly commits their updates back into the base system. Buy > a cheep card, get cheep support, buy a quality card, get quality > support. > I agree that if you buy a cheap RAID card you get cheap support, which is why I buy $800 SATA RAID cards. I'm primarily talking about on motherboard RAID 1 solutions. Native SATA RAID 1 support in FreeBSD is in such disarray I not sure where to begin. How about reading and writing metadata and failing gracefully, without a system panic, when a drive momentary doesn't respond to commands. inband rebuilding after a failure would be nice as well... I'm tired of fucking around with this shit.