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I hate to bother you with a poorly constructed question as this but I'm
getting nowhere.

I just installed FreeBSD 2.2.8 onto a 58-meg hd, 486/33/8m, 2m swap.
This is my only spare machine at this time.

I of course picked minimal install.
It runs *fine*.

I used the boot floppy, ethernet and ftp -- I must say that is a beautiful
device.
I found it was a little cryptic but I was able to get it going once I saw I
had to hard-set the ed0 i/o (ne2000)


Except df => 99% usage, no great surprise.

I note that sendmail is enclosed in this absolute minimum install.

I do not need it for basic familiarity and DNS experiments.


I have some linux background.

In redhat linux, their minimal install defaults to having sendmail as well.

But one can run

rpm -e sendmail

(Redhat Package Manager)
and it is gone, saving disk space.
Ditto for some other packages.
I was able to get RH 4.1 down to a working 66% df on this machine


I cannot figure out how to cleanly uninstall sendmail from BSD.

I take the pkg_*** suite to be equiv of RH rpm; but pkg_info gives nothing.
I assume the sendmail pkg is not registered as an installed package in
FreeBSD.

Is sendmail just too tightly constructed into FreeBSD for me to get it out?

I do note that the rpm -e command in RedHat can get you into trouble.
you can remove your libs and other things, and I could see controlling that
feature.

But is there a way to cleanly remove sendmail et al from this minimal 2.2.8
install?

Or should I just remove the related binaries and files?
Will that be okay as long as sendmail is turned off in rc.local?


quick general feedabck:

Over all, I would state I am impressed by FreeBSD so far.

I had not thought it would rival linux, but I think it does.
especially for someone wanting a stable, manageable, somewhat straight-up
installation perhaps for biz purposes.
Seems better geared for that than the wildness and rawness of linux.
E.g. the rc.local implementation is notably un-cryptic.
Seems nothing is that simple in linux.

And obviously per my installation, FreeBSD does not mind minimal hardware at
all.

Thanks much in advance for any reply.



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