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Date:      Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:51:31 -0400 (EDT)
From:      The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, phk@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Conspiracy Theories (Was: Re: The future of the bt848 driver? (FW: cvs commit: CVSROOT avail) )
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980729144411.11716Q-100000@hub.org>
In-Reply-To: <199807291837.MAA28435@mt.sri.com>

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On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Nate Williams wrote:

> [ Reduced the CC list way down ]

Subject changed and moved to -chat, since its unrelated to -multimedia...

> No kidding.  I should have kept my mouth shut in the first place, but my
> intent wasn't to slam core, or the core members in general.  My intent
> was to state my take on what happended with Amancio.  Lord nows I've had
> my beefs with him (I've got email to prove it..), but I don't like the
> attitude that I perceive a few core members portray.

	I normally wouldn't have poked my head up here, since I imagine
there is alot more at play then we see "in public", but from what we do
see "in public", there appears to be a problem that needs to be
addressed... 

> Heck, if I were to venture a guess, I'd say that John left because he
> couldn't work with the other members of core, for whatever reason.

	Right now, that is what I'm seeing also :(  How many ppl *are* on
core?  Is it an over-bloated 'elitist' club that needs to be trim'd down?
Some companies out there have 1 president and a dozen VPs, when they only
need half a dozen VPs to run smoother...

> That's a good reason to leave the core (it was mine), and I've never
> regretted it.  I took a different tact than John though, and I'm still
> involved in FreeBSD and make changes (much to the chagrin of certain
> folks), but I don't try and let it bother me.  But, because I'm not a
> core member neither do I have the responisibility of *having* to do
> work on FreeBSD, so I can go fishing whenever I feel like it, including
> just before and during a release. :)

	Since I've started using FreeBSD, and been a member of these
lists, the names that stick out, some possibly erroneously associated:

	Jordan: head honcho/businessman/hacker/jack of all trades
	Amancio: Multimedia guru
	John Dyson: VM god
	You: Networking
	
	Those four are generally whom I take a minute to read postings
from, even if the subject doesn't look like it would interest me.

	There is David out there, and Bruce, and several others that catch
my eye as well, but those four, if they post, I can generally get a feel
as to what they are going to be talking about.

	Who *is* on core?  What do they bring to the project to earn them
that 'status'? Is there somewhere where this is clearly posted?



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