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Date:      Sun, 1 Sep 2002 16:28:35 +0300
From:      Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
To:        David Schultz <dschultz@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Cc:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Proofs, correctness, and other boring stuff (was: Why did evolution fail?)
Message-ID:  <20020901132835.GC16183@hades.hell.gr>
In-Reply-To: <20020901120813.GA1227@HAL9000.homeunix.com>
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On 2002-09-01 05:08 +0000, David Schultz wrote:
> Thus spake Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>:
> > We're not talking about correctness, here, we're talking about
> > truth.  8-).
> 
> So was Gödel.  I'm not sure what you're trying to say---but can
> you prove it?  If I discussed the correctness of such a proof,
> wouldn't that automatically make it wrong?

No, it wouldn't.  A correct proof, whose correctness is under
discussion and doubted, can still be proven correct.  Not by its very
self, mind you, but by a meta-proof [repeat forever].

- Giorgos

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