From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Jan 25 20:57:33 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D23537B401; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 20:57:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B008543EB2; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 20:57:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011483D27; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 23:57:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Langille" To: Michael Lucas Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 23:57:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.0 PR is not very good... Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <3E332471.28829.655E2DB9@localhost> In-reply-to: <20030125211730.A85112@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20030125130347.GA93965@satanii.enemy.org>; from j.el-rayes@godskitchen.org on Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 02:03:47PM +0100 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25 Jan 2003 at 21:17, Michael Lucas wrote: > There was much discussion of an advocacy project not too long ago, > just a couple months in fact. We went so far as to write a to-do > list, which should still be in the archives. > > What happened? > > *Nothing.* > > This discussion generated sound and fury, but signified nothing. In short, people want something done. But nobody wants to do it. I'm all for suggestions and idea. But people have to realise that unless someone steps forward and actually does it, nothing will be accomplished. All it takes is one person to start and others will join in. But it seems nobody cares enough to do it. > I would really like some help pushing FreeBSD on the media. If folks > want to help, go grab the to-do list out of the archives and get to > work! Neah, it's far easier to suggest and moan! ;) > You don't have to be a committer, but in that same -advocacy thread I > described the Easy Way to Become a Committer, with me as your sponsor. > > We need more advocacy. > > We know what to do. > > Please, if you want to help, grab that to-do list and get to work! I agree with the above. Please folks, it's pretty simple to do. Do it. > At the moment, I'm afraid I'm not feeling like discussing this much > further. We talked it to death last time, and nothing happened. > Anyone who wants to help, please do so! Start by doing something, not > by talking about how bad it is! Good words. With that, I hope we hear the last about how bad things are. Either accept things, or improve them. But please, spare us the moaning! Thank you. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message