From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 3 2:12: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB4D37B5AE for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 02:11:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id e339BqU28039 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:11:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (root@niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id LAA04294 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:11:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from (talon@localhost) by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id LAA62296 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:11:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:11:48 +0200 From: Michel TALON To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FIXED --> Thanks! Re: ep0 eeprom failed to come ready... Message-ID: <20000403111148.A38326@lpthe.jussieu.fr> References: <200004021821.LAA02427@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200004021821.LAA02427@freeway.dcfinc.com>; from chad@DCFinc.com on Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 11:20:59AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To add my (very limited) experience to this thread, here is what occured to me. Recently a PC of my lab (running Win95, the only one under this OS) went out of service so we took an old one running Linux and tried to install Win95 on it. We stuffed the old NIC and SoundBlaster and SCSI (Symbios) card in it and began installation. At the end Windows did not see the NIC nor the SCSI card. After spending one full day playing with the cards and rebooting, still no luck. Note that we have no experience with MS Os's. Finally i discovered that the BIOS was not in the PNP OS mode. Changing that, miracle, the NIC was seen but not the SCSI card. After several more reboots, removing the drivers for the Soundblaster and so on, Win finally succeeded in putting all 3 cards in different IRQ's and having them functional. However the Soundblaster never found the usual setting of IRQ 5 etc. that is so easy to get using isapnp under Linux or pnp command under FreeBSD. Some days later i upgraded my old home PC, adding a NIC, and same problem. I had to change the AMD PC-NEt PCI for a 3 COm and play the same game with the Soundblaster to see the NIC. Moral of the story. It is plain untrue that Windows sees all hardware in a straightfoward way. One may need to fiddle very much with BIOS settings and it is very long and guesswork, involving a lot of reboots. It is much easier to use tools such as pnpdump (linux) or pnpinfo (freebsd) and issue the proper configuration commands. Having an automatic procedure is nice, if it works. But there is no insurance that it will work even under Windows and with the manufacturer provided drivers. -- Michel TALON To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message