From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 2 15:50:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D44B5DF for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 15:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B115523F6 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 15:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s62Fo3KB090776 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 2 Jul 2014 09:50:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s62Fo3w1090773; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 09:50:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 09:50:03 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Brandon Allbery Subject: Re: Dump an Unmounted Journaled UFS Filesystem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 02 Jul 2014 09:50:03 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Dan Plassche , freebsd-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 15:50:05 -0000 On Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Brandon Allbery wrote: > On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Warren Block wrote: > >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2014, Dan Plassche wrote: >> >> I understand that using dump is not currently recommended on a mounted >>> journaled UFS2 filesystem. I prefer to boot from a separate FreeBSD drive >>> for cold backups anyway, so I'm wondering if there are any issues with >>> running dump on an unmounted journaled filesystem? All the discussions >>> I've seen seem to focus on disabling journaling completely, which I would >>> like to avoid. >>> >> >> The snapshot code in sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_snapshot.c still prevents making >> snapshots on SUJ filesystems. >> >> > What exactly is the point of a snapshot for an *unmounted* ("running dump > on an unmounted journaled filesystem", from above quoted text) filesystem? There isn't a reason to snapshot an unmounted filesystem, just trying to be complete.