From owner-freebsd-current Wed Dec 30 20:30:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA17480 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:30:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Chuska.ConSys.COM (Chuska.ConSys.COM [209.141.107.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA17473 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:30:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rcarter@psf.Pinyon.ORG) Received: from psf.Pinyon.ORG (ip-17-112.prc.primenet.com [207.218.17.112]) by Chuska.ConSys.COM (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA04529; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:30:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from psf.Pinyon.ORG (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by psf.Pinyon.ORG (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA28368; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:54:01 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199812310354.UAA28368@psf.Pinyon.ORG> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: John Birrell , mrcpu@internetcds.com (Jaye Mathisen), current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New aout-to-elf build failures. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:22:53 PST." <13301.915070973@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:54:00 -0700 From: "Russell L. Carter" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > People aren't sufficiently committed to keeping the upgrade process in > > working order. It's now broken in several ways. Looks like a binary > > upgrade is the only feasible option. Sigh. > [...] > > I would of course love to see the aout-to-elf target continue to work > in this migration process but I can only go after the /boot problems, > which I have a few ideas on (mostly copying stuff into there on a.out > systems using the contents of /usr/mdec). If more than this is broken, > I suggest tugging on the sleeves of those responsible and asking them > how we're going to get everyone forcefully migrated to ELF on the 6th > of Jan if there's no real mechanism for the -current folks to do it. First: I agree with the sentiments entirely. Second: Why not start shouting now, with a HEADSUP storm converging on Jan 6 to get people off their butts? I started my aout-to-elf process on the three work systems I maintain for orthogonal reasons, but it has still taken a couple of weeks (as a background process) to move three operational systems providing important (but not mission critical) services more or less transparently to elf. Including sorting through the aout-vs-elf bugs which are the start of this thread. It's another danes with axes kinda problem, and communication helps. Ignore the whiners who would rather type than switch. Russell > > - Jordan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message