From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu May 8 19:40:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA05142 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 19:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [207.141.254.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA05137 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 19:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA20686; Thu, 8 May 1997 21:40:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19970508214036.32788@shell.futuresouth.com> Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 21:40:36 -0500 From: Tim Tsai To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Warner Losh , Joerg Wunsch , Jaye Mathisen , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: if_de.c ???? References: <15695.863140438@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <15695.863140438@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Thu, May 08, 1997 at 06:13:58PM -0700 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > But for me, the $10,000 question now is: Now that Tim and Jaye have > made so much noise about the difficulty of finding paid labor to hack > on things like the de driver, are either of them actually going to > follow through on this or was that all just about making noise and > little else? ;-) Hey, I resemble that remark. We are buying the Intel boards and be done with it! We've sent a de board out to somebody (too lazy to see who it was) though. Besides, it looks like Matt *IS* intending to support the de boards on FreeBSD, so perhaps whoever is working on this should coordinate with him. I blame this whole thing on Digital, really, for changing enough of the chip to break things to start with. :-) BTW, I did write to some of the consultants on the web page. Nobody replied. Afraid it's too little too late for us on the de driver. I will know where to ask next time though! I think the moral of the story is to not trust the supported hardware list and just buy whatever cdrom.com uses. Tim