From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Thu Mar 10 05:24:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46DECACAFB8 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 05:24:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mail.lariat.net (mail.lariat.net [66.62.230.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00623273 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 05:23:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from Toshi.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00750; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 22:23:49 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <201603100523.WAA00750@mail.lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 22:23:22 -0700 To: Sergej Schmidt , freebsd-security@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Will 11.0-RELEASE include ASLR? In-Reply-To: <56E0BEEB.2070901@uni-ulm.de> References: <56E02D95.9020303@anongoth.pl> <201603091722.KAA24139@mail.lariat.net> <56E0BEEB.2070901@uni-ulm.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 05:24:00 -0000 At 05:25 PM 3/9/2016, Sergej Schmidt wrote: >In which way ASLR has something to do with security by obscurity? ASLR attempts to create security by obscuring the locations of objects within the machine's address space. Critics of ASLR say (with some justification!) that this is just hiding them... in plain sight. Without getting into a flame war about that, I would simply like the option of compiling it in or not. --Brett Glass