From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 13 18:22:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564A316A4CE for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:22:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from silver.he.iki.fi (helenius.fi [193.64.42.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8AD43D2F for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:22:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pete@he.iki.fi) Received: from [193.64.42.134] (h86.vuokselantie10.fi [193.64.42.134]) by silver.he.iki.fi (8.13.1/8.11.4) with ESMTP id j3DIMLQH067333; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:22:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from pete@he.iki.fi) Message-ID: <425D6378.5080108@he.iki.fi> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:22:48 +0300 From: Petri Helenius User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Claudio Jeker References: <425196F0.4020309@x-trader.de> <6731347a839d85db456b1c5a33bcf0b5@mac.com> <864qeibp0v.fsf@xps.des.no> <20050413171132.B96104@electra.nolink.net> <20050413181931.GA16696@diehard.n-r-g.com> In-Reply-To: <20050413181931.GA16696@diehard.n-r-g.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeVRRPd project status X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:22:29 -0000 Claudio Jeker wrote: >On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 05:14:52PM +0200, Lars Erik Gullerud wrote: > > >>On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: >> >> >> >>>Charles Swiger writes: >>> >>> >>>>It's dead, I think: Cisco's lawyers started making predatory noises >>>>about their "intellectual property". Some people from NetBSD are >>>>working on a replacement called CARP, which you might want to check >>>>out-- it seems that FreeBSD will be picking up support for this soon, >>>>as well. >>>> >>>> >>>CARP comes from OpenBSD, not NetBSD, and is already in FreeBSD. >>> >>> >>...and can't safely be deployed in a lot of datacenter scenarios where >>the providers gear is running VRRP, since the OpenBSD-folks didn't bother >>to read up on how the process of obtaining a protocol number works, and >>hence used the one assigned to VRRP after a half-baked attempt at getting >>one themselves. Hence making CARP pretty much useless for ISPs, no matter >>how good it may or may not be otherwise. >> >> >> > >This is not true. First of all the "OpenBSD-folks" asked IANA for protocol >numbers for CARP and pfsync but IANA denied it. The reason was that CARP >was not developped through an official standards organization. > > > Did this recently change since looking at /etc/protocols it does not seem to be the case for most of them anyway? Pete