From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Aug 31 23:50:05 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03803D1941 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2020 23:50:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@lists.invis.net) Received: from mail.invis.net (mail.invis.net [5.152.219.147]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BgRlJ5q4qz4JGN for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2020 23:50:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@lists.invis.net) Received: (qmail 1373 invoked by uid 89); 31 Aug 2020 23:50:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO xenon.internal.invis.net) (no-reply@invis.net@84.9.150.199) by smtp.mail.cassiterite.invis.net with SMTP; 31 Aug 2020 23:50:02 -0000 Subject: Re: Cannot find announcement that min supported i386 CPU is now i686 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <4460db23-9a29-7972-1b41-74585764a5d7@lists.invis.net> <20200831205136.GA15141@elch.exwg.net> From: Charles Lecklider Autocrypt: addr=lists@invis.net; 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FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200831205136.GA15141@elch.exwg.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BgRlJ5q4qz4JGN X-Spamd-Bar: +++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.61 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.25)[0.249]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.89)[0.888]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.57)[0.574]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; DMARC_POLICY_REJECT(2.00)[lists.invis.net : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20860, ipnet:5.152.192.0/19, country:GB]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 23:50:06 -0000 On 2020-08-31 21:51, Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote: > Given that the hardware notes > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.4R/hardware.html#proc-i386 > explicitely claim 80486 compatibility, I'd guess this was not a > consciuous decision but a blunder which wasn't caught Hmm.... I'd assumed that each release was at least *booted* on a real 486, but obviously not. > (perhaps as > hardware of that vintage is getting rare these days. That box > must be old enough to buy alcohol by now?). Yes, I first built it in 1998 IIRC; it ran Windows for a few years (desktop, gaming) then FreeBSD from about 2002. It's been in nearly continuous operation since, although I did have to replace the PSU last year ;-) -C