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Date:      Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:58:06 +0200
From:      Roger Svenning <ros@switch.no>
To:        'Elliott Perrin' <eperrin@bigorbit.com>, "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   SV: routed, natd & ipfirewall [config help needed]
Message-ID:  <E13BBFD5DA06D411ADC600508BC25BF714426C@switch01.switch.no>

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Ok, running natd with -u solved the problem. THNX :)

Some advice on how to set up ipfw with the DMZ would be appreciated :-)

-Roger

> -----Opprinnelig melding-----
> Fra: Roger Svenning 
> Sendt: 10. april 2001 16:50
> Til: 'Elliott Perrin'; 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'
> Emne: SV: routed, natd & ipfirewall [config help needed]
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> I know that 217.8.130.32/27 is routed properly because it 
> worked when I used
> it behind natd with redirect_address
> And the fact that i get "From c12969.catch.sdsl.no (217.8.129.69):
> Destination Host Unreachable" when trying to reach a live DMZ 
> address tells
> us that the ISP is forwarding the request to our router.
> 
> I'm no expert in setting up ipfw and I would need some advice 
> on how to
> restrict access to the local network trough the dmz zone, 
> else an intruder
> which gains access to one of the dmz machine would easily go 
> from there to
> our local network.
> 
> Running routed, natd and ipfw is a bit confusing as I do not 
> know in which
> order the different daemons are handling the packets.
> 
> Just for testing purposes i have "allow ip from any to any" 
> in ipfw which
> should enable packets to go from xl2 to xl1 ?
> 
> -Roger
> 
> > -----Opprinnelig melding-----
> > Fra: Elliott Perrin [mailto:eperrin@bigorbit.com]
> > Sendt: 10. april 2001 16:55
> > Til: Roger Svenning; 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'
> > Emne: Re: routed, natd & ipfirewall [config help needed]
> > 
> > 
> > You have to make sure that your ISP is routing your subnet to 
> > your host (possible problem,
> > first place to look)
> > 
> > If the ISP is not routing the 217.8.130.32/27 subnet that you 
> > are assigned to your
> > 217.8.129.69 interface sitting on their network then the 
> > problem is there. (I actually had
> > this problem with our last ISP, they kept removing the routes 
> > from a router and had a
> > Junior Admin that didn't understand why they had to be there)
> > 
> > If they are doing that already then you probably have a 
> > problem with the rules in IPFW and
> > NATD
> > 
> > Make sure that you run NATD with the -u option, which will 
> > translate addresses only for
> > unregistered (RFC1918) addresses and that NATD is running on 
> > the external interface (in
> > your layout the 217.8.129.69 interface)
> > 
> > Check through your IPFW rules to make sure you are allowing 
> > your DMZ out to the world,
> > 
> > eg.
> > 
> > allow all from {DMZ} to any
> > 
> > (don't use that rule!!!!!, it is just an example)
> > 
> > Aside from that I have a modified rc.firewall that I used 
> > when I was still running IPFW on
> > a three interfaced machine with LAN, DMZ and link to our ISP. 
> > Let me know if you want it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Roger Svenning" <ros@switch.no>
> > To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" 
> <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 10:15 AM
> > Subject: routed, natd & ipfirewall [config help needed]
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I've been running a box with natd & ipfw for connecting our 
> > local network to
> > > the internet and it works just fine.
> > >
> > > Now I want to set up a DMZ zone for servers that should 
> be connected
> > > directly to the net without NAT
> > > I've added a third network card and enabled routed, but .. 
> > taadaa .. it
> > > doesn't work quite as expected :-)
> > >
> > > The DMZ zone can be reached from the gateway itself and 
> the internal
> > > network, but not from the internet.
> > > The routing from xl2 to xl0 trough natd works just fine.
> > >
> > > Can any1 give me some advice on how to set this configuration up ?
> > >
> > > Here's the network layout:
> > >
> > > 217.8.129.70 (ISP gateway)
> > > |
> > > -> 217.8.129.69 (xl2 interface)(255.255.255.252)
> > > |
> > > -> 217.8.130.62 (xl1 interface)(255.255.255.224) -> DMZ zone
> > > |
> > > -> 10.0.1.1 (xl0 interface)(255.255.255.0) -> Local network
> > >
> > > Roger O. Svenning
> > >
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