From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 11 17:59:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05844 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:59:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05837 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:59:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA01725; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:52:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdUc1709; Thu Nov 12 01:51:55 1998 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:51:21 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Brian Feldman cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Peter Wemm , Mike Smith , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is it soup yet? :-) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hackish or not here's the picture.. The automatic upgrade provedure cannot replace bootblocks. however we will soon only be able to profuce kernels the existing bootblocks can't read/load. they look for a a.out file called /kernel we give them one. These are "embedded" FreeBSD machines. they are all over the world. We are certainly not in the position of bringing each back to the factory! julian On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Brian Feldman wrote: > > we will probably be dropping in a 3rd stage loader > > made in a.out, called 'kernel' > > This is really hackish... > > > > > the new kernel will probably be called elfkernel or similar (ekernel?) > > > > and totally gross. > > > julian > > > > Brian Feldman > > On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > > the ability to run on old bootblocks is how shall I say... > > > > "required". > > > > > > Well, you have and have always had just two options the minute we pull > > > the elf kernel switch: You switch customers to the 3-stage boot by > > > dropping a /boot.conf file into place which calls /boot/loader (which > > > you also install along with the 3.0 upgrade) or you relabel them so > > > they look just like freshly installed 3.0.x systems; it's your choice > > > whether you want to go for minimal impact or minimal difference. > > > > > > - Jordan > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message