From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Jul 21 23:10:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA14915 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:10:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (daemon@smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14910; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:10:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr04.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA25637; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:09:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr04.primenet.com(206.165.6.204) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpd025615; Tue Jul 21 23:09:55 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr04.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA08751; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:09:54 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199807220609.XAA08751@usr04.primenet.com> Subject: Re: "Open Source Town Meeting" supports only one faction To: gsutter@pobox.com (Gregory Sutter) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 06:09:54 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980721223151.B15764@notabene.zer0.org> from "Gregory Sutter" at Jul 21, 98 10:31:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I know this will just stir up trouble in the thread, but... > if X11 was free software instead of just open source, TOG couldn't have > changed the license to a semicommercial one. That's because DEC wouldn't have funded Project Athena, nor would MIT, which licenses its code under UCB/CMU stlyle license, have participated in its developement. X is a Cathedral, to use ESR's terminology. You can watch the Bazaar all your life and not see Notre Dame rise slowly but surely over the grubby cloth awnings on the street below. Some things are simply not possible in a Bazaar model, mostly things which are long term or require a long term vision. Feel free to work at changing my mind; the day Rockwell lands a man on the moon without public funding would be a good time to tell me "I told you so". Even PBS needed public funding to recreate a tiny pyramid. PS: For all its impressive press, it is very clear to me that the people giving the most attention to ESR's paper have failed to go look at the source code of the project it documents. This is not to denigrate his efforts, but it ain't no Cathedral... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message