From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 20 16:56:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AA61065673 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:56:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D50D8FC13 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so5002604bwz.13 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:56:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=T4wobzHj7TkWvc4uyxT4vHvDnGoOLrmp6Q4CARAPPO0=; b=G3NFOgoX52iQ31mbZtQQynPOP/aJNHczb1AMdQIdg0vhH4nVQVyTKOcbhDgoDM33qG OJnsY/FicyO2Z+bQQ++xLVNbAcim6HF4wDk+aCwXEKwpF8eUJimC34dA66g7eYXDsiO5 KmCzDog0H+cZodSPoWE3nYamz+KyXmZLiotFA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=lmwUFhMn5bKg2zBfFTHvk+1xZ0A9xtJiYdWyeI+0rcVyMp3QJwt57bsTiL8Nb5TcFq PPZuu6pfVUZDhNOU/uO8aDo/n2WhQ9Wrqnc+lQsmI50y28uNsGIXpeopMSGATFAGIjBm COh7tvte23uLZ5eTbyv+FPh2Sb0hS1U0P8RZw= Received: by 10.204.99.136 with SMTP id u8mr1402475bkn.4.1290272195319; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:56:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.52.19 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:56:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20101119172200.4e9c8cd5@scorpio> References: <201011192054.oAJKsOPk011590@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20101119163648.19c9e66a@scorpio> <20101119172200.4e9c8cd5@scorpio> From: Chris Rees Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:56:05 +0000 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: openssl version - how to verify X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:56:38 -0000 On 19 November 2010 22:22, Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:53:11 -0600 > Adam Vande More articulated: > >> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Jerry >> wrote: >> >> > On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:08:26 -0600 >> > Adam Vande More articulated: >> > >> > > While I agree with your point in this context, the statement "The >> > > number of _UNDISCOVERED_ bugs, on the other hand, is an infinite >> > > one." is false. >> > > >> > http://www.unsw.edu.au/news/pad/articles/2009/sep/microkernel_breakthrough.html >> > >> > It was later discovered that the software used to certify the kernel >> > 100% bug-free was not itself bug-free thereby nullifying results. >> > >> Link or another "Jerry Fact" > > I would have thought that was obvious. Although, it does remind me of > the old myth that the bumblebee should not be able to fly > . > > "There's a sucker born every minute" is a phrase often credited to P. > T. Barnum, and quite often true. No, it's not 'obvious', just like many other things. People believed Aristotle's assurances about the rate of things falling for nearly 2000 years until Galileo and Newton pointed out 'obvious' flaws in his method. Again, link? Chris