From owner-cvs-all Tue Jan 29 14:26:24 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B798437B402; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 14:26:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.245.134.159.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.245.134.159] helo=blossom.cjclark.org) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Vghh-0002rU-00; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 14:26:13 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g0TMPw179928; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 14:25:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 14:25:58 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Garance A Drosihn Cc: Robert Watson , Will Andrews , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RELENG confusion RELENG_4 RELENG_4_5 Message-ID: <20020129142558.E79208@blossom.cjclark.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from drosih@rpi.edu on Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 12:56:28PM -0500 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 12:56:28PM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 8:58 AM -0500 1/29/02, Robert Watson wrote: > >On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Will Andrews wrote: > > > > >> Uh. It was my impression it was already unfrozen since we have a > >> RELENG_4_5 tree.. there will be no more work relating to the release on > >> the RELENG_4 tree. > > > >If you have't seen an announcement from Murray, then it's not unfrozen. > > I suspect that some of the confusion about this comes from the message > from Murray which said: > > From owner-committers-archive@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 25 12:17:02 2002 > Message-Id: <200201252016.g0PKGsa17117@freefall.freebsd.org> > From: Murray Stokely > Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:16:54 -0800 (PST) > To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org > Subject: cvs commit: CVSROOT avail > X-FreeBSD-CVS-Branch: HEAD > > murray 2002/01/25 12:16:54 PST > > Modified files: > . avail > Log: > Unfreeze src/, The RELENG_4_5_BP tag and the RELENG_4_5 branch have > been created. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.163 +1 -1 CVSROOT/avail > > It's pretty easy to read "Unfreeze src" and think that might mean > that the code freeze is over, particularly when combined with the > the rest of the log message. But what I think he meant was to "unfreeze" in the sense that it was not "physically" possible to commit to src/ while he had the 'avail' lock set. This is opposed to the "policy" freeze where there is nothing physically stopping commits, but one is supposed to obtain re@ permission first. That said, I too have been unclear on whether RELENG_4 was still frozen since RELENG_4_5_BP and RELENG_4_5 were laid down. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message