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[71.136.150.27]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n124sm10090675ywf.95.2019.04.28.18.57.48 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Apr 2019 18:57:48 -0700 (PDT) From: To: "'Charles Sprickman'" , "'Paul Mather'" Cc: "'FreeBSD Stable'" References: <002901d4fdfb$e52eb890$af8c29b0$@ixsystems.com> <15583041-1D56-44BE-8E88-ECC11C935A09@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <34C3A77A-7B18-487E-9BC4-5B1087FEEBEA@bway.net> In-Reply-To: <34C3A77A-7B18-487E-9BC4-5B1087FEEBEA@bway.net> Subject: RE: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 21:57:47 -0400 Message-ID: <012501d4fe2e$f21cc730$d6565590$@ixsystems.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQFBRupbev+o6AHqgfoJLZwOgBKxNQKcVF00Ap3I+oanT/7cUA== Content-Language: en-us X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9DD2286478 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=ixsystems-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=m9dVHS6v; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=ixsystems.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kris@ixsystems.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::c2f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kris@ixsystems.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ixsystems-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ixsystems-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: ALT3.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.com]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[f.2.c.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[ixsystems.com,none]; IP_SCORE(-3.00)[ip: (-9.46), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.19), asn: 15169(-2.27), country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 01:57:52 -0000 Its on the agenda for next months Working Group. That and tooling to = help migrating to pkg base and keeping /etc files intact.=20 --=20 Kris Moore Vice President of Engineering iXsystems, Inc Ph: (408) 943-4100 Ph: (408) 943-4101 The Groundbreaking TrueNAS M-Series - Enterprise Storage & Servers Driven By Open Source -----Original Message----- From: Charles Sprickman =20 Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 9:30 PM To: Paul Mather Cc: kris@ixsystems.com; FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base > On Apr 28, 2019, at 6:21 PM, Paul Mather = wrote: >=20 > On Apr 28, 2019, at 3:52 PM, = wrote: >=20 >> FreeBSD Community, >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> I'm pleased to announce a CFT for builds of FreeBSD 12-stable and=20 >> 13-current using "TrueOS-inspired" packaged base. These are stock=20 >> FreeBSD images which will allow users to perform all updating via the = 'pkg' command directly. >> Rather than trying to answer all questions in this announcement,=20 >> we've created a FAQ page with more details. Please refer to this=20 >> page, and let us know if you have additional questions that we can=20 >> include on that page going forward. >=20 >=20 > I currently keep my FreeBSD/arm and FreeBSD/arm64 systems up to date = via PkgBase in FreeBSD 12. It works well for me (crossbuilding and = hosting the PkgBase repository on a FreeBSD/amd64 system). >=20 > What is the difference between the above CFT-created PkgBase and one = created via "make packages" using the native build system = (https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase)? Looking at the FAQ you linked = (https://trueos.github.io/pkgbase-docs/), it seems the above CFT system = is less granular than the one currently produced via the in-tree "make = packages" (which could be a good thing from a simplicity standpoint). = Is there anything else? >=20 > Is the above CFT-produced packages the system that will ultimately=20 > become the way packaged base is produced in FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE, or=20 > is it just an alternative you want people to try out and evaluate? I=20 > guess I'm not clear what "TrueOS-inspired" packaged base means. :-) What are the plans to get rid of the hellscape known as = =E2=80=9Cmergemaster=E2=80=9D? Is there anything exciting and new there = either in base or any of the ixSystems projects? Thanks, Charles >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Paul. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list=20 > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"