From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 10:11:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8C6106566B for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrey@zonov.org) Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com [209.85.212.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13328FC0C for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so306805wib.13 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 02:11:01 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of andrey@zonov.org designates 10.180.89.71 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.89.71; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of andrey@zonov.org designates 10.180.89.71 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=andrey@zonov.org Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.89.71]) by 10.180.89.71 with SMTP id bm7mr516890wib.20.1330596661709 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 01 Mar 2012 02:11:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.89.71 with SMTP id bm7mr420524wib.20.1330596661546; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 02:11:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.94.9 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 02:11:01 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [95.108.170.17] In-Reply-To: <4F4F450D.3060607@FreeBSD.org> References: <201202292241.q1TMffCk048359@svn.freebsd.org> <4F4F2375.3080209@zonov.org> <4F4F3BFB.5030104@FreeBSD.org> <4F4F450D.3060607@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:11:01 +0400 Message-ID: From: Andrey Zonov To: Andriy Gapon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlKB+gRtESe76GwBtlsMKTxvbKeEKbP8cujqD0JOV0cdq1pXwtaWdriP/Sx/uAAHgkJECfC Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Andrew Thompson Subject: Re: svn commit: r232321 - head/share/man/man9 X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 10:11:03 -0000 On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 01/03/2012 11:11 Andrey Zonov said the following: >> It doesn't make sense. =A0For (CTLFLAG_RD|CTLFLAG_TUN) there is relevant >> code in sysctl(8), but for (CTLFLAG_RW|CTLFLAG_TUN) there is no any >> code, or did I miss something? > > In the existing code - no. > But I would appreciate if e.g. sysctl -d could report that a sysctl also = has a > twin tunable. =A0I can imagine that there could be things which are bette= r be set > to a certain value from the very start (via a tunable) rather than switch= ed to > that value later in a boot process (via sysctl). > Extra user-friendly information doesn't hurt, IMO. That would be very usefull, I also thought of it, but for now we've got many tunables+sysctls that don't mark as CTLFLAG_TUN. One quick example is: vm.pmap.shpgperproc --=20 Andrey Zonov