From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 1 16:13:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B917B10656D6 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:13:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from macgyver@calibre-solutions.co.uk) Received: from mail.calibre-solutions.co.uk (mail.calibre-solutions.co.uk [217.79.104.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DCF88FC13 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:13:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from macgyver@calibre-solutions.co.uk) Received: from vmx.calibre-solutions.co.uk (coruscant.calibre-solutions.co.uk [172.16.1.1]) by mail.calibre-solutions.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5BB33C29; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.1.29] (unknown [172.16.1.29]) by vmx.calibre-solutions.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232AFAF919; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:13:10 +0100 (BST) From: macgyver To: Anton Shterenlikht In-Reply-To: <20080801110614.GA17503@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20080801110614.GA17503@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:13:10 +0100 Message-Id: <1217607190.8664.9.camel@executor> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: future for FBSD on alpha X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:13:11 -0000 On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 12:06 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 09:34:25AM -0000, Angus MacGyver wrote: > > > > The we must do - if this is going to go ahead, - is to make reasonable > > decisions about what ports are the "most wanted" - say apache22 and mysql > > for example - and not "care" about something like "joe" (I just use these > > as examples - after all one can use a different editor - but a different > > webserver or DB is another matter) > > this sounds like a good idea - a list of most wanted ports. > However, even 1 or 2 big ports might require lots of dependencies. > For example I've 229 ports at present, of which only 20 or so > are top level, like ImageMagick, xpdf, teTeX, some X clients. > Big ports - yeah true - gotta start somewhere mind... I have 84 on this replacement x86 box - and it won't have been much different from the AXP machine - as it does pretty much same job. Another question that probably needs answering - and that may well skew what ports will be required - what do we all use AXP's for ? Me for example ran one as a webserver with no graphics card - just serial line access (the jails were each DNS/IRC/Mail/Http for isolation) I also ran another virtually identical (+gfx card) machine as a desktop (tell you what - I *knew* when I had that thing turned on - I didn't need to have the heating on upstairs!!!) Completely different uses will radically alter what ports are required. Regards AM