From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 24 22:37:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2669C1F06 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:37:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm28-vm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm28-vm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.97.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AAC9194A for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:37:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1440455747; bh=igdUsj7Wu/1TXRw+8XJHVfTEZTobt4R5WHDrgHEyIew=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=nNRuTE23a8mkmZk59s+AjR1R/LCoHJl39Ttk7Zd4H1SyuUgDvPPG1K2KKGUflO/fQHbmP9dov759lLk5G8z9fbNuRx3qMmxgmF+KGzOFQJ+4M3hf1Xj8xF/0l7EnFp4bQ1145PsCKLvGL7demJYZAzbqQ+O8yCYIso0CX8OXj1wL7M6N5rAWKLBJwo28U2mVXXEJ52QSAkv846XmM7hKf5qM82yIc7nr4hpKCVmxDZ3fEd87b6QjPaodn9ikcjLb97JeQd7fGqD7YiMlExqVO9EPapx9l3tfRLj3q36TpEYHN/URyLcnCLDxfT68XCNmhGQyZSIGvp2xjnk/X5qP0g== Received: from [212.82.98.126] by nm28.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2015 22:35:47 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.80] by tm19.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2015 22:35:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2015 22:35:47 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 792881.65850.bm@smtp117.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 0kTQDqQVM1mZwgTvyt7oPyDTLRe76ky9CK9VNQJE1s2et7I Wt_1iEjbPEdMeZZY1ZYPDvwkqPYHqRullZd_dGitwUSyiiHPdj37JRvi_PrG Ams6g5kNJPDsbBiBlV4px1wME25LjC7gzsghM6qYxD5FtUZ8hU0AXRj3Ufkd eE7EoPZXGL6UBQKX.BaYDFhndtne9bvmAQMFdx8QlX8PVC45QvnDa9XNvQXF fIX718IxauQYiBgSNIMGwXjYxbXlHZ6cgK1bHrvjaBydmCsoXYJrSq6tscvE lj092FAgfaT.V_xId8iI3SP5UGvueE.7eFkL7ZBx2eH.HHcTECyi4XhQanld OekYtsPW6ooYlSMuEuU4L_rGZ5mMyaFSuNsOvy0IejBePdcYsfi13yru8Q96 En5bSgEEKKCYCa2Km4g.fIRFQRS8TrWWLl_ZnHPq2X0649yfpFxPVR5yChhg aRxGf5pf7jW8QCB.FthleduewULAITq2L.l1Librl7LY2ZEqacbVOMWInE7i xYkSH4oZUrt9MRHrxkOpZ79D_D.HbjiB5rX98AX_ab0Ru.iLNng_.HWMx6d5 O4dCL24I- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 00:35:46 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Stop using a SATA drive Message-ID: <20150825003546.74884e1c@moonstudio> In-Reply-To: <20150825003135.48defc18@moonstudio> References: <20150824214252.53aa04c6.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150825003135.48defc18@moonstudio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0-43-g278084-dirty (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-weremouse_ubuntu_moonstudio-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:37:37 -0000 On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 00:31:35 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:15:26 -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote: >>I didn't know that the heads were parked when the power is cut... but >>that is a relief to hear. > >I own a around 40 MiB SCSI for an Atari from the late 80s. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ or early 90s? >I simply turn of the power without sending a command first. So >seemingly drives must be older than from the late 80s, to not provide >automatically parking. Regarding the SATA Wiki, SATA was created in >2003. Unlikely that a SATA without automatically parking >existed/exists.