From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Wed Jun 1 15:19:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991B4B61055 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:19:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from puchar.net (puchar.net [194.1.144.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "puchar.net", Issuer "puchar.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 083E11509 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:19:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by puchar.net (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id u51FJimn036483 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 1 Jun 2016 17:19:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from laptop.wojtek.intra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by laptop.wojtek.intra (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id u51FJfRK003779; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 17:19:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by laptop.wojtek.intra (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id u51FJaHd003776; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 17:19:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) X-Authentication-Warning: laptop.wojtek.intra: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 17:19:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar X-X-Sender: wojtek@laptop.wojtek.intra To: Joerg Sonnenberger cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: EFI GELI support ready for testers In-Reply-To: <20160601144738.GA14531@britannica.bec.de> Message-ID: References: <519CC1FC-84DF-4710-8E62-AF26D8AED2CF@metricspace.net> <20160528083656.GT38613@kib.kiev.ua> <20160528172618.GB38613@kib.kiev.ua> <6A9DADE0-B214-424A-BB14-0B0848F0D08D@metricspace.net> <20160529091827.GD38613@kib.kiev.ua> <46B3F9E2-A25B-4F9D-B35F-11AC782495B1@metricspace.net> <20160601144738.GA14531@britannica.bec.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (puchar.net [10.0.1.1]); Wed, 01 Jun 2016 17:19:45 +0200 (CEST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:19:49 -0000 >> This sounds more like a religious dogma than anything else. > > If "ZFS volume" means "ZFS pool" here, it is also blatant bullshit. > There are a lot of reasons for having more than one ZFS pool, the > easiest being separating SSDs and HDDs for fast vs cheap storage. assuming one would like to use ZFS - it is of course right. As with any other filesystem. Even more - no matter what filesystem i would use i would never want to put tens of disks as one filesystem. for simple reason of recovery and reliability. And i consider FreeBSD loader already overcomplex. having separate partition for boot stuff is just fine. After kernel is loaded it takes care of all stuff.