From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 3 23:11:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71280106564A for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2010 23:11:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D41C8FC1D for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2010 23:11:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-249-33.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.249.33]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9A93DCDF; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 01:11:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o53NBfxR004587; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 01:11:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 01:11:41 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Andy Hiscock Message-Id: <20100604011141.a9351681.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <394109.6601.qm@web26106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <929158.22715.qm@web26105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <125527.66409.qm@web26103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <68898.63609.qm@web26105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20100603234321.06784375.freebsd@edvax.de> <922734.44548.qm@web26101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20100604003342.c33b39d0.freebsd@edvax.de> <394109.6601.qm@web26106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UPGRADE TO RELEASE 8.0-P3/SAMBA HELP REQUIRED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 23:11:43 -0000 On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:58:48 +0000 (GMT), Andy Hiscock wrote: > So am I lead to believe FreeBSD is mean to be a "Mechanics" > Operating system? I say that in the nicest way. I wouldn't go that far, but FreeBSD, as well as repairing a car, requires certain knowledge and experience, I agree. > "We are not interested about the "uneducated" user." But PC-BSD is interested in them. :-) No, honestly, I don't want to insult PC-BSD. Maybe you should have a look at it: It's a FreeBSD based operating system and application bundle, just like a Linux distribution, and comes preconfigured with KDE and many tools aiming at users who are not able or do not want to know about their OS. It's an "every day task" system that perfectly fits "Joe Q. Sixpack" users. And I really mean this as a positive statement. You should really take a look at their website to see if this is what you want. By the way, PC-BSD is a good starting point for better BSD education, but nothing is better than building your own system from scratch. :-) > or "Leave the idiots to Windows/Mac or Linux point and click"? Using a real operating system requires real knowledge. It is very important to understand that computers aren't easy, in contra- diction to what advertising wants people to believe. > As updating my BSD version has been nothing but problems. Because you haven't fully performed it. To use a car analogy: You put a new motor in the car, but you didn't connect it with all the other parts inside the car, and you notice: "Hey, I can't drive this damn car!" :-) > The transition from BSD 7 to 8 is equivalent to a windows > service pack or Mac OS release, both which happen seamlessly. The transition from 7 to 8 involves more work than the transition within 7. I think Giorgos Keramidas explained this better than I did. Just imagine my "fun" when having to go from 5 to 7! I got 20 years older in one week. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...