From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 22:43:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD45106564A for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:43:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 30E458FC19 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:43:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31590 invoked by uid 0); 14 Nov 2010 22:43:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2010 22:43:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=TPKknoy97TetrJZH9V5Xf4ZWxLWQF+tqc6BfcBqcU1NX6PEGRGMdU8LD4nPEHIPwmohSuXM+wVLX6pa3cnfh+McGW4C6aqG+1x0i5D+iKD15FmICtoPphHIWmkWk7lia; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PHlIJ-0006iE-TM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:43:33 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:37:15 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:37:15 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101114223715.GA50902@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201011132032.oADKW4FG025920@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20101113220559.GE45921@guilt.hydra> <4cdfa533.KmbS7pHvQ3h+K92G%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20101114204450.GA9247@thought.org> <20101114220249.GC43542@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101114220249.GC43542@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:43:34 -0000 --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:02:49PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Gary Kline on Sunday, 14 November 2010: > >=20 > >=20 > > Just about the whole Murray Hill gang stopped by Cray=20 > > (in Chippewa Falls), late 80's, and I remember asking Dennis > > what the deal was with "C++"; I remember him dodging the > > thing. Whoever-invented-C++ did a convoluted job, i s my > > opinion. It might be nice to add classes to C, but that's > > about it. > >=20 > The inventor of C++ is Bjarne Stroustrop. I had the chance opportunity > to sit down at a table with him and have a conversation prior to an SD > West conference several years ago. He's a nice guy, with a great sense > of humor -- but even he admits "C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the > foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off." > http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bjarne_Stroustrup There's always the theory that Bjarne Stroustrup actually meant C++ as a joke: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/I_did_it_for_you_all It's generally regarded as a hoax, and there is an actually published interview that corresponds with this time period in IEEE's Computer Magazine that reads quite differently from this. Still . . . if this is real, it would certainly explain a lot. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkzgZJsACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXSCwCdEhezRzEnrVjT3jPEA9XdbE2X EGUAoM2Pb0CmhoJXi3z1aoxjlZ4L86nx =0GHa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY--