Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:46:00 +0200 From: Wout =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Decr=E9?= <wout@canodus.be> To: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> Cc: Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org>, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-current Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>, Navdeep Parhar <nparhar@gmail.com> Subject: Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg? Message-ID: <1405629960.2468.14.camel@debian.wout-t440s> In-Reply-To: <CAJ-VmokHbBq3hAYAr-cpUL92RstdXhrDMuTiVw=6strHK2nFMw@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAG=rPVcyqq2072%2BgF_X91BocxykJB6%2BU0cMhaNexxfVFpVqUbA@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-Vmo=p6-7KCL8C09O4dPq04pitW5wDbtsDAyz-u4Qtr7rpRA@mail.gmail.com> <CAGZBXN8-Gq1=w8SBHCw26ZX4a29KHBx%2B4FV9XGK1HJiCOGuJ9A@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-Vmo=8uAXqmX8D%2BoP%2B63dHWVKN6cn8wBH0HNsVmUciNRF1BA@mail.gmail.com> <53C82EC4.8060304@gmail.com> <CAJ-VmokHbBq3hAYAr-cpUL92RstdXhrDMuTiVw=6strHK2nFMw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 2014-07-17 at 13:21 -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On 17 July 2014 13:15, Navdeep Parhar <nparhar@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote: > >> On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares <amijaresp@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> wrote: > >>>> Hi! > >>>> > >>>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box > >>>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it > >>>> can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a bit of a > >>>> problem; > >>> > >>> > >>> No. Please NEVER do that! The user must be able to edit the files and > >>> start the service by himself. > >> > >> Cool, so what's the single line command needed to type in to start a > >> given package service? > > > > Aren't sysrc(8) and service(8) for this kind of stuff? > > Yup, and if the default is going to be off, then you want the > instructions to be "type this in", not "edit this file." > > There's odd things too, like "oh look I installed xorg, but then I > can't run it without enabling hald/dbus, then starting it.. oh wait, > no mouse, so I have to reboot for them to come up right" kind of crap. > > That's the kind of thing that turns people away. > I see your point, and agree that there should be clear instructions after installing a port/package. Most ports I install already do a good job at this. But I would not like anything to autostart just because I install it. Prefer to enable rather than disable something, or worse, having it autostart without knowing. That's the kind of thing that turned me to FreeBSD :-) > > > -a > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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