From owner-svn-ports-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 09:20:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0124B907; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shepard.synsport.net (mail.synsport.com [208.69.230.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 459F31F52; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.23] (unknown [130.255.19.191]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shepard.synsport.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2502343B94; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:20:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <52E381D3.9020009@marino.st> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:20:19 +0100 From: John Marino User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Wilke Subject: Re: svn commit: r340970 - head/devel/premake References: <201401250043.s0P0h0RO021017@svn.freebsd.org> <20140125064631.GA96178@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, Alexey Dokuchaev , Baptiste Daroussin , svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: marino@freebsd.org List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:20:55 -0000 On 1/25/2014 10:14, Martin Wilke wrote: > And your commenting about style worries maintainer and committers so > better reread last line in motd at freefall. > > thanks ;) > > > On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Alexey Dokuchaev Ditto. Guys, I know some of you are working on stagifying the tree very > actively these days, making tens to hundreds commits a day. This is all > much appreciated, cool, and awesome, but it does not mean commit > messages > can become sloppy. Moreover, it gives a bad example for other people. I agree that Danfe is coming from a weak position since he's throwing stones while living in a glass house (meaning he's got plenty on his plate and I don't see many commits lately), however, that doesn't make him wrong. The majority of FreeBSD commit messages are atrocious, and that's including when they meet the standard of danfe. I just love seeing QAT message that you can't immediately tell which port failed because only a very few people (like myself) put the name of the port being changed in the first line of the message. The freebsd rationale for not doing it? "The mail list added the port name automatically so it's redundant". Except that doesn't apply to QAT or any external repository. So big fail all already. So he's right + he should get his house in order to avoid the "shut up; you're guilty too" responses. John