From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 14 16:13:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936DA16A407 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tec@mega.net.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.152.83.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F0643D49 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:13:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tec@mega.net.br) Received: from anb.matik.com.br (anb.matik.com.br [200.152.88.34] (may be forged)) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9EGDefM022747; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 13:13:40 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from tec@mega.net.br) From: NOC Prowip Organization: Prowip Telecom Ltda To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 13:13:27 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <20061014130331.68863.qmail@web33312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200610141113.25155.tec@mega.net.br> <20061014153813.GC72440@Geeks.ORG> In-Reply-To: <20061014153813.GC72440@Geeks.ORG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610141313.28868.tec@mega.net.br> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,ISO_7BITS autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: Antispam Datacenter Matik msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Mike Horwath Subject: Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:13:49 -0000 On Saturday 14 October 2006 12:38, Mike Horwath wrote: > On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 11:13:24AM -0300, NOC Prowip wrote: > > Hi, I am hooking in here without any intention to fire things up but > > isn 't this discussion certainly useless? Not only 4.11 is gone but > > also i386 is practically marked to die out as well as UP systems > > are. > > Wow, I hope not. > only a matter of time I guess, next year we will have 64bit quad-cores and I am really not sure if anybody will build 32bit versions ever again > Unless you are separating out i386/i486 and such. > are this dinos still serving somewhere? > Many people refer to i386 as all 32bit x86 systems. > I would say this preference is mostly set by beeing afraid of migration (lots of things can come up when migrating a production server) or by lack of money to buy some nasty HW ... > > All platforms are going to be 64bits and memory of 4GB or more is > > not so rare anymore. Allmost all AM2 MBs support already 16MB. Even > > most professionals are not using SCSI anymore but Sata-II. > > I disagree. > I didn't say I agree but probably also only a matter of time for me > SATA (of any gen) still does not perform like SCSI. Let's just look > at spindle speed alone ignoring the other benefits of SCSI. > I had no time to test it on a life webserver and probably can't do it so soon but I tell you that a 10K Raptor is faster then a 15K 320Mb SCSI when compiling world or untarring large files. Also NCQ is not reserved to SCSI anymore so when you see the price then it is becoming a valid option for small servers. Hans -- Prowip Telecom Ltda AS 22706 A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br