From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 1 19:47:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82311065676 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 19:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcm@fuzzwad.org) Received: from mail.volente.us (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:7:d47::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A558FC1A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 19:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shiny-w0.fuzzwad.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.volente.us (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q51Jlro7095706 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:47:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rcm@fuzzwad.org) Message-ID: <4FC91C69.6050706@fuzzwad.org> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:47:53 -0500 From: Ron McDowell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <201206011857.q51IvqN3049343@office.dignus.com> In-Reply-To: <201206011857.q51IvqN3049343@office.dignus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 19:47:54 -0000 On 6/1/12 1:57 PM, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > We used to have FreeBSD exclusively on desktops... > > Now, we have migrated to other desktops (mac) with FreeBSD running > the build and file server... > > Why? > > Because - the mac updates itself! No pain, no installation, > no keeping-up with mailing lists/announcements, just and its done. > > Mac OS has a nice X11 server, the Mac UI is good enough, you don't > have to install/update anything, the "app store" is perfect > for downloading/installing whatever a desktop user might need. > > It was just too alluring... > > So, FreeBSD runs our NFS file server, and we log into a larger > FreeBSD machine to do builds, etc... but, the desktop has moved. > > One developer here uses Linux Debian for about the same reason, > it's trivial to update (via the network) to new versions, etc... > > Our web site used to be FreeBSD-based, but it was just too > cost-effective to get a virtual Linux box on the backbone and > move everything to that. Our requirements aren't too big, so > that works beautifully. There _are_ people doing virtual > FreeBSD boxes in a similar fashion, but they were quote a lot > more for the annual fee.. so, Linux it was... > > I suppose, in some sense, you could argue that MacOS is FreeBSD... > > - Dave Rivers - > I feel the same way about OSX for desktops [and my desktop is also my notebook with a monitor/keyboard/mouse]. I have been quite happy with rootbsd.com [right there in your area code] for VM boxes, have some in Raleigh and in Dallas and they perform well, running 8-stable and 9-stable. I've also used vr.org for FreeBSD boxes in Europe and Asia, no problems there either. -- Ron McDowell San Antonio TX