From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 20:55:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C7816A4CE for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 20:55:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw.catspoiler.org (217-ip-163.nccn.net [209.79.217.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545E143D46 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 20:55:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (mousie.catspoiler.org [192.168.101.2]) by gw.catspoiler.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i224st7E096820; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 20:55:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200403020455.i224st7E096820@gw.catspoiler.org> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 20:54:55 -0800 (PST) From: Don Lewis To: end@endif.cjb.net In-Reply-To: <20040302043700.E5B2D43D2D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Mozilla Firefox and firebird problems after sat 022604upgradeof FreeBSD-current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 04:55:33 -0000 On 1 Mar, Robin Schoonover wrote: > On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 20:23:05 -0800 (PST), Don Lewis wrote: >> On 1 Mar, Brian F. Feldman wrote: >> > Why in the world are you going around recompiling ports and changing >> > dotfiles to find a lock-up? Either X is having problems, or the kernel >> > is having problems. Go to the _CONSOLE_ and execute the programs that >> > are "causing" the "lock-up" and you will stand a chance at actually >> > finding and fixing whatever is going wrong. >> > >> > Ctrl-Alt-F1 >> > >> > DISPLAY=:0.0 firefox >> > >> > (or whatever) >> >> That's really a neat trick. I think it deserves to be documented >> somewhere. >> > > It is. X(1) (man X) > > You may need to install XFree86-manuals (x11/XFree86-4-manuals). I've set $DISPLAY many times over the years, but ... > Although, being this is really about debugging system trouble, it may be a > good idea to document with whatever other stuff we have about the subject. Yeah, I meant in the context of debugging the system. It would eliminate the need for a serial console in a number of cases. It never occured to me to try this trick when attempting to debug a system crash or lockup while X is running.