From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 25 13:58:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B23837B405 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5783A43FA3 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:58:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6PKw7ju039399; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:58:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6PKw7f5039398; Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:58:06 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Luigi Rizzo Message-ID: <20030725205806.GB39268@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030719171138.GA86442@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030721202314.GC21068@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030722151138.GB72888@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030722153056.GM863@starjuice.net> <20030723002531.GA44452@kokeb.ambesa.net> <20030724185933.GC85582@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030724120652.B33961@xorpc.icir.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030724120652.B33961@xorpc.icir.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Things to remove from /rescue X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 20:58:09 -0000 On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 12:06:52PM -0700, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 11:59:33AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 08:25:32PM -0400, Mike Makonnen wrote: > ... > > > base system. IMO, /rescue should be the absolute essentials _only_. > > > Instead of theorizing reasons why someone might need ipfw and friends, > > > why don't we wait until we get a bug report about a specific situation > > > in which it was needed before we put it back in. > > > > Thank you for expressing this so well. I do think we should wait for > > PR's telling real experiences rather than theorizing so much in the "what > > if"'s. > > then just nuke everything from /rescue and waif for PR's... :) {\sarcasm Or just go back to /[s]bin being statically linked and create /[s]bin.dynamic and those that want that can put it first in their path. }