From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 19 12:35:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1FB106564A; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:35:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A9E8FC14; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p5DCBF636.dip.t-dialin.net [93.203.246.54]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q6JCZI3k097768; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:35:20 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6JCaxHa013760; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:37:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6JCaka3073457; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:36:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201207191236.q6JCaka3073457@fire.js.berklix.net> To: FreeBSD FS , freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 18 Jul 2012 02:03:46 PDT." <50067BF2.40907@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:36:46 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: attilio@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MPSAFE VFS -- List of upcoming actions X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:35:26 -0000 Doug Barton wrote: > On 07/17/2012 22:54, Gustau Pérez i Querol wrote: > > In fact filesystems not particulary specific and not tied our kernel > > would go to userspace; thinks like smbfs, nwfs, ntfs, ext2 o ext4 for > > example should be in userspace > > A big -1 here. > > The more native FS support we have the better off we are in terms of > both people migrating from other OS', and people who need to maintain > compatibility with other OS'. Personally I use both msdosfs and ext2fs > extensively for the latter purpose, and would not want to see either > removed. It would be regretable if FreeBSD dropped integrated FS support, Many embedded devices that could use BSD, use Linux, eg TV recorder: http://www.humaxfoxsathdr.co.uk/ Ext2/ext4 internal & USB Ext2/4 + FAT32 external. TV recorder: http://www.dreambox800.co.uk FAT. GPS: http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/search/?q=linux FAT32. Manufacturers are often clueless about BSD, & suprised how much more attractive the BSD (non FSF!) licence is, removing integrated FS support would increase change deterrent. PS Re ext2: I'm looking for an equivalent of mkfs_ext2, any suggestions ? Ports maybe ? `man newfs` gives No useful hints: -T Forget that, I checked the source, its a ref to /etc/disktab SEE ALSO (from 8.2) fdformat(1), geom(4), disktab(5), fs(5), bsdlabel(8), camcontrol(8), dump(8), dumpfs(8), fsck(8), gjournal(8), makefs(8), mount(8), tunefs(8), gvinum(8) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from Yahoo & Hotmail dumped @Berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/