From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 15:32:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959CA16A4CE for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:32:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (sea1-f103.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9F043FF9 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:32:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:32:29 -0800 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:32:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] X-Originating-Email: [crollins666@hotmail.com] X-Sender: crollins666@hotmail.com From: "clayton rollins" To: r0tt13@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:32:28 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2003 23:32:29.0182 (UTC) FILETIME=[B76A29E0:01C3B9F5] cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Question about security updates. X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:32:33 -0000 Hi, On Dec. 3, 2003 "rotten rottie" wrote: > >here is a better example: > >As you can see there is no port/package installed called openssh/ssh .... > >vanapps01# pkg_info >cvsup-without-gui-16.1f General network file distribution system op >VS >expat-1.95.5 XML 1.0 parser written in C >ezm3-1.0 Easier, more portable Modula-3 distribution for >gettext-0.11.5_1 GNU gettext package >gmake-3.80 GNU version of 'make' utility >libiconv-1.8_2 A character set conversion library >libtool-1.3.4_4 Generic shared library support script > > >But ssh is installed by default during a stand/min install .... > >vanapps01# whereis sshd >sshd: /usr/sbin/sshd /usr/share/man/man8/sshd.8.gz >/usr/src/secure/usr.sbin/ssh > >If you cvsup the src you can build a new one by going in openssh dir and >typing make sshd .... > >vanapps01# pwd >/usr/src/crypto > >vanapps01# ls -la >total 18 >drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 512 Dec 2 20:48 . >drwxr-xr-x 20 root wheel 512 Dec 2 21:22 .. >-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 520 Feb 9 2001 README >drwxr-xr-x 14 root wheel 1024 Dec 2 20:45 heimdal >drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 5120 Dec 2 20:46 openssh >drwxr-xr-x 15 root wheel 1024 Dec 2 20:48 openssl >drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 512 Dec 2 20:48 telnet > >My questions pertain to this example .. ie if ssh had a bug which do you >update ?? src/or ports ?? which is proper ?? Do I not install ssh at >install time so I can install a port of ssh ?? or is there an easy way and >I am making it complex ? > >Thanks for you help so far .. > This is probably a good example of why technical questions should go to the masters on freebsd-questions. (In fact, I'm not really allowed to answer your question here, other than to point to documentation.) What, on the surface, seems to be a simple newbie question actually involves far-reaching philosophical and technical implications. I'm sure they will be willing to give you advice on an install/upgrade path that suits your needs and clear up any confusion you have about the ports system. (If not, at least one newbie (me) will be watching for your message, and I may venture my opinions there, where I will be corrected if I'm wrong :).) Peace, Clayton _________________________________________________________________ Our best dial-up offer is back. Get MSN Dial-up Internet Service for 6 months @ $9.95/month now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup