From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 7 15:06:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED19816A420 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 15:06:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61EC743D5D for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 15:06:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 8984 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Mar 2006 15:06:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UcI3K/M1rkby4rRpIcPtnASK1AghRmKmR2puhokBcTaQGjoNM6ZXmythMNvcgudXZTLnfkyIrzxlexCuQwPgj8vOPyF/bmSiONJxMLw/zLRaG9JUm2iPQ0/AH06Aw/Q5zlas0561DYjrq3vezzDlu9jyTizz5h5+l4H4nyoovBA= ; Message-ID: <20060307150601.8982.qmail@web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33311.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 07:06:01 PST Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 07:06:01 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Sam Nilsson , "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: <440D2E20.9060108@servingpeace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: New logo, new look X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:06:03 -0000 --- Sam Nilsson wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Is there a reason why both the old and new > logos cannot be used in > > tandem? I'd rather leave the old one up on my > web site, since, > > personally, I like it better ... I understand > the argument for a 'new > > logo', but, quite frankly, after looking at > the new one, I'm surprised > > the same arguments (being associated with a > demon) isn't still being > > made, since the new one *still* gives that > same connotation ... > > > > My preference is to keep using the old logo > ("Beastie") on my web site, > > and I imagine there are others that feel the > same way ... are we going > > to be "shunned" as a result? I would hope > not ... > > I'm not really on one side or another on this, > but it occurs to me that > a lot of people may be missing a subtle > distinction. From what I > understand "Beastie" is a mascot and not a logo > although he may have > been used in place of a logo since there was no > logo previously. The > addition of a logo should allow FreeBSD to > appear more professional. The > new logo should be complementary to Beastie and > live along side it. > > Peace > - Sam It seems to me that the problem with Beastie is that its trademarked and you can't use it freely without permission. So having a logo that you own is a good idea. What's a bad idea is having a stupid logo that doesn't translate into anything that anyone would want sitting in the back window of their car or on a bumper sticker. You can't give out fuzzy-horned balls at a trade show. The reason that BSD is what it is (that is, an obscure OS to the masses) is because BSD camps are run by a bunch of geeky programmers that have no sense of marketing. LINUX, which we'll all agree is an inferior technical product, gets a lot of milage out of their stupid penguin. At least its identifiable and marketable. Learn from your competitors. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com