Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 16:31:14 +0100 (CET) From: Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws> To: Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws> Cc: Johan Hendriks <joh.hendriks@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: BRT copying feature Message-ID: <2016215695.9786.1730993474125@localhost> In-Reply-To: <982644351.5078.1730980565800@localhost> References: <b8e0bb5f-5d5d-4b47-9c02-3448f148a1c1@gmail.com> <1568966692.4590.1730895354064@localhost> <97788ab0-db70-4413-8b18-f9d95f1d120f@gmail.com> <982644351.5078.1730980565800@localhost>
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Hi,
Another option is this.
The installer /usr/sbin/bsdinstall uses a script called /usr/libexec/bsdinstall/zfsboot. Zfsboot defines this:
#
# Default options to use when creating zroot pool
#
: ${ZFSBOOT_POOL_CREATE_OPTIONS:=-O compress=lz4 -O atime=off}
You can set this environment variabele to your liking before starting bsdinstall.
ZFSBOOT_POOL_CREATE_OPTIONS="-O compress=lz4 -O atime=off -o feature@block_cloning=disabled" bsdinstall
If you are booting from an USB stick installer you can also change the zfsboot script on the USB stick and restart the installer.
NB: don't confuse the option with ZFSBOOT_BOOT_POOL_CREATE_OPTIONS.
Regards,
Ronald.
Van: Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws>
Datum: donderdag, 7 november 2024 12:56
Aan: Johan Hendriks <joh.hendriks@gmail.com>
CC: FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Onderwerp: Re: BRT copying feature
>
>
> Van: Johan Hendriks <joh.hendriks@gmail.com>
> Datum: donderdag, 7 november 2024 11:43
> Aan: Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws>
> CC: FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
> Onderwerp: Re: BRT copying feature
>>
>>
>>
>> On 06/11/2024 13:15, Ronald Klop wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> When you create a new pool you can use something like this:
>>> zpool create -o feature@block_cloning=disabled ...
>>>
>>> I tried setting this on an existing pool. That gave me an error.
>>> # zpool set feature@block_cloning=disabled zdata4
>>> cannot set property for 'zdata4': property 'feature@block_cloning' can only be set to 'disabled' at creation time
>>>
>>> So to install a new 14.2 system you need to do some manual work to create the root pool with the options you prefer.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ronald.
>>>
>>>
>>> Van: Johan Hendriks <joh.hendriks@gmail.com>
>>> Datum: woensdag, 6 november 2024 09:37
>>> Aan: FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
>>> Onderwerp: BRT copying feature
>>>>
>>>> I installed the latest 14.2 Beta and i noticed that on the root pool the BRT copying feature is enabled on the pool.
>>>> I know i need to set vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled=1 to really make us of it. But i do not want this on my root pool but i do want to use it on my storage pool.
>>>> I can not disable this feature on the root pool as it is a feature that can only be set at creation time.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to use this feature only on selected pools?
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> Johan Hendriks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> I think that it would be nice if the installer has the option to set a feature like this to off. Is it easy to break out of the installer, create the pool before hand and use that pool?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Johan.
>
>
> Hi Johan,
>
> The installer gives me the option to partition manually (which does not give me the option you are looking for) or open a shell which gives you all the power you need.
>
> Partitioning
> How would you like to partition your disk?
>
> Auto (ZFS) Guided Root-on-ZFS
> Auto (UFS) Guided UFS Disk Setup
> Manual Manual Disk Setup (experts)
> Shell Open a shell and partition by hand
>
>
> [ OK ] [Cancel]
>
>
> I can't say if you will find it easy or not.
> Good luck!
>
> Regards,
> Ronald.
>
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<html><head></head><body>Hi,<br>
<br>
Another option is this.<br>
<br>
The installer /usr/sbin/bsdinstall uses a script called /usr/libexec/bsdinstall/zfsboot. Zfsboot defines this:<br>
<br>
#<br>
# Default options to use when creating zroot pool<br>
#<br>
: ${ZFSBOOT_POOL_CREATE_OPTIONS:=-O compress=lz4 -O atime=off}<br>
<br>
You can set this environment variabele to your liking before starting bsdinstall.<br>
<br>
ZFSBOOT_POOL_CREATE_OPTIONS="-O compress=lz4 -O atime=off -o feature@block_cloning=disabled" bsdinstall<br>
<br>
If you are booting from an USB stick installer you can also change the zfsboot script on the USB stick and restart the installer.<br>
<br>
NB: don't confuse the option with ZFSBOOT_BOOT_POOL_CREATE_OPTIONS.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Ronald.<br>
<br>
<p><strong>Van:</strong> Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws><br>
<strong>Datum:</strong> donderdag, 7 november 2024 12:56<br>
<strong>Aan:</strong> Johan Hendriks <joh.hendriks@gmail.com><br>
<strong>CC:</strong> FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org><br>
<strong>Onderwerp:</strong> Re: BRT copying feature</p>
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<strong>Datum:</strong> donderdag, 7 november 2024 11:43<br>
<strong>Aan:</strong> Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws><br>
<strong>CC:</strong> FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org><br>
<strong>Onderwerp:</strong> Re: BRT copying feature</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/11/2024 13:15, Ronald Klop wrote:</div>
<blockquote>Hi,<br>
<br>
When you create a new pool you can use something like this:<br>
zpool create -o feature@block_cloning=disabled ...<br>
<br>
I tried setting this on an existing pool. That gave me an error.<br>
# zpool set feature@block_cloning=disabled zdata4<br>
cannot set property for 'zdata4': property 'feature@block_cloning' can only be set to 'disabled' at creation time<br>
<br>
So to install a new 14.2 system you need to do some manual work to create the root pool with the options you prefer.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Ronald.<br>
<br>
<p><strong>Van:</strong> Johan Hendriks <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:joh.hendriks@gmail.com" onclick="composeMailto('joh.hendriks@gmail.com'); return false;"><joh.hendriks@gmail.com></a><br>
<strong>Datum:</strong> woensdag, 6 november 2024 09:37<br>
<strong>Aan:</strong> FreeBSD Current <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:freebsd-current@freebsd.org" onclick="composeMailto('freebsd-current@freebsd.org'); return false;"><freebsd-current@freebsd.org></a><br>
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<div class="TextPlainViewer" id="P.P">I installed the latest 14.2 Beta and i noticed that on the root pool the BRT copying feature is enabled on the pool.<br>
I know i need to set vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled=1 to really make us of it. But i do not want this on my root pool but i do want to use it on my storage pool.<br>
I can not disable this feature on the root pool as it is a feature that can only be set at creation time.<br>
<br>
Is there a way to use this feature only on selected pools?<br>
<br>
regards,<br>
Johan Hendriks<br>
<br>
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I think that it would be nice if the installer has the option to set a feature like this to off. Is it easy to break out of the installer, create the pool before hand and use that pool?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Johan.</div>
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<br>
<br>
Hi Johan,<br>
<br>
The installer gives me the option to partition manually (which does not give me the option you are looking for) or open a shell which gives you all the power you need.<br>
<pre style=";white-space: pre-wrap;white-space: pre-wrap;">Partitioning
How would you like to partition your disk?
Auto (ZFS) Guided Root-on-ZFS
Auto (UFS) Guided UFS Disk Setup
Manual Manual Disk Setup (experts)
Shell Open a shell and partition by hand
[ OK ] [Cancel]
</pre>
<br>
I can't say if you will find it easy or not.<br>
Good luck!<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Ronald.<br>
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