From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 20 17:22:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C962AD48DA0 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 17:22:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D79DFD1 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 17:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id v3KHM8wM012950; Fri, 21 Apr 2017 03:22:08 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 03:22:08 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Tomek CEDRO cc: Jon Radel , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Accessing UFS partitions from a Macbook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20170421021427.F9330@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20170420233840.N9330@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170421011323.Q9330@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 17:22:14 -0000 On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 17:56:23 +0200, Tomek CEDRO wrote: > If you only intend to use external HDD with Mac use native HFS+ that > would dramatically increase efficiency over FAT. You may also want to > enable encryption that is not really affecting speed noticably and may > protect data on a drive in case it gets stolen. > > If you want to work with large files and windoze you may prefer to use > exFAT instead FAT32. That would allow large files on a large drive > plus (limited) OS interoperability. Except you will really need to > wait long for fsck to finish with *FAT. fsck part is important as > macOS tries that on automount and you will see no drive after plugging > it into USB port before its verified clean. Thanks for info. This is mostly for a one-off copy, largest files are ~200MiB .wavs, plus some .mp3s, .png spectrograms and several programs, not too big for FAT32, neither will be a say 96GiB partition, though I'll need to limit any compreesed archives to <4GiB on FAT32. > True, FUSE gets the job done. And it sucks there is still no common > filesystem to work well on all OS. UDF could be the candidate, but > still most OS can NOT mkfs nor write including FreeBSD :-( Considering how BSD-ish it seems in Terminal - df, du and other commands working as expected - I was a bit surprised that it doesn't support UFS natively, given its heritage. When I first ran mount it complained - as will FreeBSD without an fstab entry - about needing the -t switch, but 'mount -t ufs' didn't complain about that but a (not) missing directory. > Remember about native SSH on macOS (see System Preferences / Sharing / > Remote Login) that could give you nice way to get the job done > remotely :-) Thanks for the method .. ssh access was shaping to be my next question, sftp -p likely being the quickest short-term solution here, and I won't need to scare my daughter by messing around with her precious Macbook :) cheers, Ian