From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Sep 6 18:39:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6810137B400 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3A443E3B for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:39:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b137.otenet.gr [212.205.244.145]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g871dJ7f023433; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 04:39:19 +0300 (EEST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g871dIcf017330; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 04:39:18 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g871dIvC017329; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 04:39:18 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 04:39:18 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Neal E. Westfall" Cc: chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-ID: <20020907013917.GC16913@hades.hell.gr> References: <20020907002242.GC15779@hades.hell.gr> <20020906181354.C44831-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020906181354.C44831-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> X-PGP-Fingerprint: C1EB 0653 DB8B A557 3829 00F9 D60F 941A 3186 03B6 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message: <20020906181354.C44831-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> "Neal E. Westfall" wrote: > > Correction. Logic and ethics are meaningless without objective > standards, and objective standards are impossible without appealing > to something, well, *objective*. "Objective" means that it comes to > you from the outside, externally, i.e. "not subjective". So > immediately the opinions of men are eliminated. What is left? The team. The sum of a dozen people, is more than a dozen people. A team can define what is objective, without a need for anything supernatural. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message