From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Mar 29 21:35:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA08606 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 21:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from plum.cyber.com.au (plum.cyber.com.au [203.7.155.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA08587 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 21:34:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from darrenr@localhost) by plum.cyber.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA27792; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 15:34:24 +1000 From: Darren Reed Message-Id: <199703300534.PAA27792@plum.cyber.com.au> Subject: Re: Dilemma. how to store DOS directories ? To: jfw@jfwhome.funhouse.com (John F. Woods) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 15:34:23 +1000 (EST) Cc: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au, darrenr@cyber.com.au, hackers@freebsd.org, port-i386@netbsd.org In-Reply-To: <199703290745.CAA02609@jfwhome.funhouse.com> from "John F. Woods" at Mar 29, 97 02:45:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In some mail I received from John F. Woods, sie wrote > > >> If I recall correctly, on exabyte, EOF markers are "1MB" in size (although > >> newer tape formats aren't quite so braindead). So more files on the tape > >> means less space for real data. When ypu're backing up in excess of 100,000 > >> files onto the one tape, it makes a difference. > >That was true of the original 8200 format. Later formats used on the 8500 > >series offered two sizes of tape mark. The long mark, and a short mark > >which chews up some 128k. > > Of course, neither tar nor cpio stores one disk file per tape "file". There > is one EOF mark per tar archive, not per disk file. If you back up 100,000 > files on one tape, you get one EOF mark. If you do multiple backups per > tape, you have one EOF mark per backup, but you're talking tens, not hundred > thousands, of EOF marks in that case. Ahh...well, I've been too long in the HP-UX camp...they have an abdomination called "fbackup", which together with "frecover" claim to some hybrid of tar/cpio/dump but has got to be the worst thing I've ever had to use (has the inefficiences I describe above).