From owner-freebsd-security Wed Jun 26 16:37: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D9B37BAEF for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1088) id D8F4BAE163; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 15:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 15:39:19 -0700 From: Dave To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wow Message-ID: <20020626223919.GA31673@elvis.mu.org> References: <20020626121754.F8071@mail.seattleFenix.net> <200206261919.g5QJJLLI018466@cvs.openbsd.org> <20020626202057.GA7152@zot.electricrain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020626202057.GA7152@zot.electricrain.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To whom it may concern on the list, Shut the fuck up, you bunch of belligerent, whiney dorks. No one gives a rat's ass if you get hacked. Actually, I spoke too soon, someone must care, since *someone* already told you to fucking upgrade. Someone call the goddam Guinness Book, we've assembled the largest group of crybabies in history. And the absolutely stunning thing is that after I post this, the bitching will grow. Hypocrisy > * To upgrade or not to upgrade, that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of script kiddies, Or to take arms against a sea of hostile dorks, And by opposing end them? To reboot: to shutdown; No more -a little slice of reality p.s. Chris, this was not a post directed at you in particular. Chris Doherty (chris-freebsd@randomcamel.net) wrote: > At some point, Theo de Raadt said: > > I've barely slept in a week. > > get some rest. > > > So many of you are being totally unreasonable people. > > well. > > "Upgrade now." > > "What versions are vulnerable?" > > "Upgrade now." > > "*sigh* Okay, I'll upgrade my 40 production machines." > > "Okay, the version in -stable is unaffected. Oh yeah, and even if you're > running a vulnerable version, set 'ChallengeResponseAuthentication no' and > you'll be fine." > > people aren't being unreasonable. they just wasted a lot of time upgrading > to a new version of software, when in reality probably 95% of cases are > either not vulnerable or can be secured with a simple configuration file > change (I made that number up, of course, but at least on this list it > doesn't seem out of proportion). > > for myself with my one machine, I'm just annoyed. if I had gone through > this bullshit on 40 machines, when I could have just modified a config > file, I'd be pissed, and rightfully so. > > but, *shrug*. I'll not give such credence to vague warnings in the > future--lesson learned. > > Chris > > > ------------------------------- > Chris Doherty > chris [at] randomcamel.net > > "I think," said Christopher Robin, "that we ought to eat > all our provisions now, so we won't have so much to carry." > -- A. A. Milne > ------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message -- Dave McKay dave@mu.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message