From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 9 01:31:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7EE16A4CE for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 01:31:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from arginine.spc.org (arginine.spc.org [195.206.69.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36D943D58 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 01:31:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bms@spc.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C307E651F4; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 02:31:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from arginine.spc.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arginine.spc.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 59930-06; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 02:31:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from empiric.dek.spc.org (82-147-17-88.dsl.uk.rapidplay.com [82.147.17.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FB0651EB; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 02:31:53 +0100 (BST) Received: by empiric.dek.spc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ED9CA613D; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 02:31:52 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 02:31:52 +0100 From: Bruce M Simpson To: Dan Langille Message-ID: <20040709013152.GR15368@empiric.dek.spc.org> Mail-Followup-To: Dan Langille , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <40EDB001.4311.E98BBCCC@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="24zk1gE8NUlDmwG9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40EDB001.4311.E98BBCCC@localhost> cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How's current lately for laptops? (was Two questions on Thinkpad T41) X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 01:31:56 -0000 --24zk1gE8NUlDmwG9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 08:35:13PM -0400, Dan Langille wrote: > Bruce: I think this answers my question. My ThinkPad T41 is now in=20 > the shop getting a new system board (I hope). When it returns, I was=20 > considering running -CURRENT on it rather than 5.2.1-RELEASE. Your=20 > experience above has encouraged me to try it. I'll cvsup to the=20 > above date and let you know how it goes.... when I get it back. You also said on IRC: > [John Baldwin had a look at it at USENIX, and he figured it > was a cable or controller problem, which means the system board] If we can establish that the problem is isolated to a specific ATA controller revision, we may be getting somewhere.... My T40, which does not demonstrate any of these problems, has the following: atapci0@pci0:31:1: class=3D0x01018a card=3D0x052d1014 chip=3D0x24ca8086 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 A locally affected T41 has the following: atapci0@pci0:31:1: class=3D0x01018a card=3D0x052d1014 chip=3D0x24ca8086 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 =2E..which are again, identical. Your T41 is... off to the shop for a motherboard replacement. What I'd like to do next is for people with affected machines to run acpidump, extract their DSDT, and then run md5 to at least establish if they're different; and following on from THAT, to run iasl and diff for possibly differing ACPI methods with regards to the CD-RW module. In the absence of detailed dumps, this is all I can think of right now. This gets us no further to a working hypothesis, but I'm posting this for the sake of having more data to work from. Regards, BMS --24zk1gE8NUlDmwG9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: '' iD8DBQFA7fWIueUpAYYNtTsRAqTYAJ9RGklmSDMuYwfcPMTYaQ5pvMyufACeNHio PF+F3olrd/9mLQIMMqqlPZ0= =hYEI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --24zk1gE8NUlDmwG9--