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Date:      Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:37:31 -0800
From:      "Renaud Waldura" <renaud@waldura.com>
To:        "C. Stephen Gunn" <csg@waterspout.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: How to send arp request with no other traffic
Message-ID:  <000d01c08634$b6702c80$0402010a@biohz.net>
References:  <HJEEKLMFLKEOKHOKNPBMKEDBCJAA.patrick@netzuno.com> <006901c085ae$fae9bd80$0402010a@biohz.net> <20010124003305.B231@waterspout.com>

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> You can't really assume this will work.  FreeBSD has a sysctl
> to disable responses to broadcast/multicast ICMP-echo requests.


You know what, I tried it with Windows machines, that do not reply to
broadcast ping either, and it worked anyway. What gives?




----- Original Message -----
From: "C. Stephen Gunn" <csg@waterspout.com>
To: "Renaud Waldura" <renaud@waldura.com>
Cc: "Patrick Bihan-Faou" <patrick@netzuno.com>; <freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: How to send arp request with no other traffic


>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 06:40:14PM -0800, Renaud Waldura wrote:
>
> > An amusing trick to populate the ARP table is to ping the broadcast
address.
> > Even if hosts do not reply to your ping packet (typically, Windows
> > machines), they are entered in the ARP table.
> >
> > You still have to send a single packet, but it does all the work.
>
> You can't really assume this will work.  FreeBSD has a sysctl
> to disable responses to broadcast/multicast ICMP-echo requests.
>
> Exploitation of this "feature" is the basis for several denial
> of service attacks.  Spoof the origin address to an layer-3
> broadcast address and voila, amplified responses.  :-(
>
>  - Steve
>
> --
> C. Stephen Gunn <csg@waterspout.com>   |   Waterspout Communications, Inc.
>



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