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Date:      Wed, 7 Jul 2004 09:24:58 -0500
From:      Kirk Strauser <kirk@strauser.com>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Rewrite cvsup & portupgrade in C
Message-ID:  <200407070924.58708.kirk@strauser.com>
In-Reply-To: <20040707135753.GA38754@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
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On Wednesday 2004-07-07 08:57 am, Steve Kargl wrote:

> This is a red herring.  This is the FreeBSD project.  Other projects and
> OSes can do their own work.

I really don't understand this logic.  There is nothing FreeBSD-specific=20
about CVSup from what I can see - it's a generic tool to synchronize data=20
from a remote CVS tree.  We don't have BSDftp or BSDhttp, but we seem happy=
=20
to have BSDcvs.

> They can then contribute their work back to the EZM3 maintainer to provide
> the portability you crave.  =20

Noone else is interested in our tool, no matter how great it is, because=20
it's a pain in the neck to use if you're not already using FreeBSD.  That=20
means that we have to bear the entire onus of maintaining it, developing=20
it, and porting its language to new release / hardware combinations.  Is=20
there a queue of people eagerly awaiting the chance to carry ezm3 forward,=
=20
or is it a chore that someone gets saddled with because they want to use=20
the only commonly used program that's written in it?

> How many active ia64 (and ppc) developers does the FreeBSD platform
> have?  Well, there's Marcel.  Would you rather he work on the
> kernel or ezm3?  You've suggested the modulo-3 is a dead language,
> how would you categorize the ia64 architecture?

People are still buying IA64 systems (for reasons beyond me).  Noone beside=
s=20
the few people qualified to work on cvsup is using ezm3 that I'm aware of.
=2D-=20
Kirk Strauser

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