From owner-freebsd-python@freebsd.org Mon Oct 17 17:10:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-python@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C909C1559D for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 17:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Received: from inga.augusta.de (smtp-relay.augusta.de [IPv6:2a04:29c7:1420::1:2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp-relay.augusta.de", Issuer "RapidSSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C33AB9A for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 17:10:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Received: from inga.augusta.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inga.augusta.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u9HHA9A0079344 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Oct 2016 19:10:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by inga.augusta.de (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with UUCP id u9HHA7kD079343; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 19:10:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Received: from [192.168.71.66] (wanderer.starbox.augusta.de [192.168.71.66]) by gatekeeper.starbox.augusta.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u9HH5elo001532; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 19:05:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schmidt@ze.tum.de) Subject: Re: Introducing python3 into user system To: "Vlad K." , freebsd-python@freebsd.org References: <5893aa6d-5e29-81b5-9685-a04ab8260bcb@ze.tum.de> <60f3bedb-8f57-2703-7ee9-736fc26ff9d0@yandex.ru> From: Gerhard Schmidt Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 19:05:36 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Gs5Cx6vW2RVI7PetIx51dpOfDu6sbnser" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (inga.augusta.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 17 Oct 2016 19:10:10 +0200 (CEST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-python@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD-specific Python issues List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 17:10:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Gs5Cx6vW2RVI7PetIx51dpOfDu6sbnser Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="iX6qKwfOIBflRSAVKxEjC0IlavUwvQMjK" From: Gerhard Schmidt To: "Vlad K." , freebsd-python@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Introducing python3 into user system References: <5893aa6d-5e29-81b5-9685-a04ab8260bcb@ze.tum.de> <60f3bedb-8f57-2703-7ee9-736fc26ff9d0@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: --iX6qKwfOIBflRSAVKxEjC0IlavUwvQMjK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 17.10.2016 um 14:03 schrieb Vlad K.: > On 2016-10-17 13:27, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: >> >> Please do not break systems without a really good reason. This we can >> discus in 4 years when support for python2 will end, but not until tha= n. >=20 > I agree with the bit of "let's not break systems", but not with the > second part. >=20 > Meanwhile, pkg variants will actually help going forward with ports tha= t > can run py35, enabling environments that want to be py35 exclusive whil= e > at the same time provide py27 environments where needed. >=20 > So instead of "let's [do nothing and] discuss this in 4 years" I propos= e > "let's see how to get variants going" :) i didn't say do nothing. I just said don't force it. If there is no python (or python 3.x) on the system port's that can run on both should use python 3.x by default. If there is python2.7 on the system that should be used and not force the user to install python3.5 just to install a package that would run just fine on the already installed python2.7. 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