From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Wed Nov 22 18:51:00 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B39DF29C6; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:51:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from hz.grosbein.net (hz.grosbein.net [78.47.246.247]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hz.grosbein.net", Issuer "hz.grosbein.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87E5964BBD; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:51:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (root@eg.sd.rdtc.ru [62.231.161.221] (may be forged)) by hz.grosbein.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id vAMIot6B017125 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 22 Nov 2017 19:50:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: benno@FreeBSD.org Received: from [10.58.0.4] ([10.58.0.4]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id vAMIop6N099756 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 23 Nov 2017 01:50:51 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Subject: Re: The future of fortune(6) To: Benno Rice , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <66D39828-ADBA-4973-BEB8-B2F6657E9996@FreeBSD.org> From: Eugene Grosbein Message-ID: <5A15C706.5020909@grosbein.net> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 01:50:46 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66D39828-ADBA-4973-BEB8-B2F6657E9996@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, LOCAL_FROM, RDNS_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Report: * -2.3 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * 1.9 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS * 2.6 LOCAL_FROM From my domains X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on hz.grosbein.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:51:01 -0000 22.11.2017 23:29, Benno Rice wrote: > 1) Complete removal of fortune and freebsd-tips, remove its usage from the default .login/.profile files. > > 2) Reworking fortune(6) to remove the offensive fortune flag and make freebsd-tips the default, possibly by symlinking it as /usr/share/games/fortune/fortunes. > > Personally I lean towards the first option. Please leave fortune(6) alone and stop ruining useful enviforment removing utilities being here long time for no reason. You forgot that fortune(6) is not limited to files installed with base system but is very useful with custom local set of fortunes, too. And leave strfile(8) etc. intact for the same reason, please. Eugene Grosbein